Re: [liberationtech] liberationtech Digest, Vol 231, Issue 1
Unsubscribe Kristian mobile On Jan 27, 2015, at 16:29, liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu wrote: Send liberationtech mailing list submissions to liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at liberationtech-ow...@lists.stanford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of liberationtech digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (hellekin) 2. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (marietta le) 3. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Douglas Bagnall) 4. The missing tech between TBB , Whoonix and Tails (Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists) 5. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (ma...@wk3.org) 6. Re: The missing tech between TBB ,Whoonix and Tails (Eduardo Robles Elvira) 7. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Amin Sabeti) 8. Re: The missing tech between TBB ,Whoonix and Tails (Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists) 9. Re: The missing tech between TBB ,Whoonix and Tails (Nathan of Guardian) 10. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Jens Kubieziel) 11. 3D Printing Prosthetics: A conversation with JonSchulland JeremySimon of e-NABLE (January 22,2015 | 10:00-11:00 am EST) (Nick Martin) 12. Internet repression continues in Cuba (Myself) 13. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Griffin Boyce) 14. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Andr?s Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes) 15. CAMRI seminar 28/1: Clint Burnham on Slavoj ?i?ek and the Internet (Christian Fuchs) 16. Re: CAMRI seminar 28/1: Clint Burnham on Slavoj ?i?ek and the Internet (Travis Biehn) 17. Computational Epidemiology: The role of big data and pervasive * 4:15PM, Wed January 21, 2015 in Gates B03 (Yosem Companys) 18. UC Berkeley CITRIS Research Exchange for theSpring is now online (Yosem Companys) 19. [SPAM:] [SPAM:###] Davos 2015 takes aim at the future of the internet (and cyber-security) (Andrea St) 20. mySociety's new $3.6M investment from Omidyar Network, seeks to grow Poplus civic tech collaboration (Steven Clift) 21. Stanford Liberationtech Seminar: Will revolutionbe tweeted? - Jan 29 (Yosem Companys) 22. CfP - International Journal of Communication Special Issue - (Un)civil Society in Digital China (Jiang, Min) 23. Net neutrality case in Slovenia (Mitar) 24. Re: Net neutrality case in Slovenia (Rejo Zenger) 25. Testers sought for PassLok privacy (Francisco Ruiz) 26. Teknokultura Journal - latest issue (Javier de Rivera) 27. Call ESA 2015 Conference: ?Critical Media Sociology Today? (Christian Fuchs) 28. The Future of Security Journalism (J.M. Porup) 29. Re: The Future of Security Journalism (Eleanor Saitta) 30. Re: The Future of Security Journalism (J.M. Porup) 31. Free TechChange-USAID Course: How To Use Mobile Data Solutions for Better Development Outcomes (Nick Martin) 32. Marisol Sandoval: From Corporate to Social Media (CAMRI Seminar Feb 4) (Christian Fuchs) 33. Open Data Day Micro Grants - ODD is Feb 21st (Steven Clift) 34. Re: Iranian are bypass the Twitter censorship and sanction by their mobile phones (Collin Anderson) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:19:14 -0300 From: hellekin helle...@gnu.org To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Open Source Videoconference platform Message-ID: 54bc5b92.4000...@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/18/2015 11:16 AM, Andr?s Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote: Is there such a thing? Reliable? Skype sucks, and it is a Microsoft product now (too flickery, etc.), and I don't know of others.. *** Tox (https://tox.im/) is a promising alternative to Jitsi and XMPP/SIP. It specifically aims at replacing Skype. Still early, but already impressive. == hk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUvFuLXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFQ0IyNkIyRTNDNzEyMTc2OUEzNEM4ODU0 ODA2QzM2M0ZDMTg5ODNEAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9ffMP/03IbC3mW9nTIG73Mu9ev72S WJnDRNTLCu/T+MJFNkRRYyIbXMAROwFJD3PVziWEyMoo+JcGbgFr1/U/CeLedMLg s1ATThHgydNvZAn5KfC3xalTnQN/r8RQ8hYsZ/o5d5l3HC7LVqvZoNHme1ZHiuNB V3Y2ZAopGIYGQDqGEk2kIjqrx+S/IQInV+2d0WuHrq6K6dk2gA7/FVzfu+S16FV3 SCBc8hRcjXfcJPe1nnZOffWlHeVVOiBMVAHVQ/7aZINIuJuBzjRZk/aP4eu88VdU d5e6PUi+ZsQz/Okk+Ky970kAshXCKrQ6Aq8YMWIAh13qHTRJtfQxaFLkprKAzl9d
Re: [liberationtech] liberationtech Digest, Vol 231, Issue 1
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 01:19:05PM -0500, Joe Hall wrote: Mailing lists like this often include a header element like this that you can use to unsubscribe yourself: List-Unsubscribe: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/options/liberationtech, mailto:liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu?subject=unsubscribe You're right, this list carries RFC 2369 headers.[1] But it's even simpler than that. Every correctly-run mailing list on the Internet has an associated address of the form: [listname]-request@[listhost] as in: liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu I say correctly because it's been a standard for 18 years: Mailbox names for common services, roles and functions http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2142.txt and it was a very frequently-used convention for 15+ years before that. All sensible mailing list management software (e.g., Mailman, which operates this list) supports it. So all you need to remember is that tacking -request onto the left hand side of any mailing list's address should connect you to the entity (probably software; could be a human, but probably not) that can subscribe and unsubscribe you, and change your list options (if applicable). But wait! There's more. You should also be able to reach the human(s) behind any mailing list by using -owner in the same way, e.g., if there's a mailing list whose address is j...@example.com, then joe-ow...@example.com should reach whoever's behind it. Unlike -request, which these days almost certainly connects to software, -owner should connect you to people. So keep in mind that messages to -request should use the proper syntax (send help and only that if you don't know) but messages to -owner should use complete sentences, because otherwise you probably won't be understood. And finally, if all else fails, it has been an absolutely mandatory requirement since approximately forever (okay, RFC 822, which dates from 1982) that postmaster reach the human(s) responsible for the care and feeding of whichever mail system is in play. Any operation that doesn't support that has no business sending or accepting email, period, full stop. This is thus a fallback if -request doesn't seem to work and -owner also yields no joy. So. First try -request. If confusion ensues, try -owner. If all else fails, try postmaster. If all of those fail, then get the cluestick ready because you're dealing with incompetent morons who should be forced (a) to fix their horribly broken mail system and (b) to listen to the 3-CD, 137-minute anthology Bieber and Skrillex Tribute to Pink Floyd. [2] On 10. With headphones. ---rsk [1] RFC 2369 is described here: The Use of URLs as Meta-Syntax for Core Mail List Commands and their Transport through Message Header Fields http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2369.txt and on this list, these are set: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: If your mail client doesn't make it very easy for you to see those on demand, then your mail client is misconfigured or broken. If the former, fix the configuration; if the latter, discard it, because there is absolutely no excuse, in 2015, for a mail client that doesn't facilitate compliance with an important RFC from 1998 -- doubly so one that is key to participation in every responsibly-run mailing list on the Internet. (Of which, I'm happy to note, liberationtech et.al. are.) [2] Rest easy. I made that up. The world is still safe. For the moment. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] liberationtech Digest, Vol 231, Issue 1
Mailing lists like this often include a header element like this that you can use to unsubscribe yourself: List-Unsubscribe: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/options/liberationtech, mailto:liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu?subject=unsubscribe On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Kristian Simsarian ksimsar...@cca.edu wrote: Unsubscribe Kristian mobile On Jan 27, 2015, at 16:29, liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu wrote: Send liberationtech mailing list submissions to liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to liberationtech-requ...@lists.stanford.edu You can reach the person managing the list at liberationtech-ow...@lists.stanford.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of liberationtech digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (hellekin) 2. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (marietta le) 3. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Douglas Bagnall) 4. The missing tech between TBB , Whoonix and Tails (Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists) 5. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (ma...@wk3.org) 6. Re: The missing tech between TBB ,Whoonix and Tails (Eduardo Robles Elvira) 7. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Amin Sabeti) 8. Re: The missing tech between TBB ,Whoonix and Tails (Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) - lists) 9. Re: The missing tech between TBB ,Whoonix and Tails (Nathan of Guardian) 10. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Jens Kubieziel) 11. 3D Printing Prosthetics: A conversation with JonSchulland JeremySimon of e-NABLE (January 22,2015 | 10:00-11:00 am EST) (Nick Martin) 12. Internet repression continues in Cuba (Myself) 13. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Griffin Boyce) 14. Re: Open Source Videoconference platform (Andr?s Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes) 15. CAMRI seminar 28/1: Clint Burnham on Slavoj ?i?ek and the Internet (Christian Fuchs) 16. Re: CAMRI seminar 28/1: Clint Burnham on Slavoj ?i?ek and the Internet (Travis Biehn) 17. Computational Epidemiology: The role of big data and pervasive * 4:15PM, Wed January 21, 2015 in Gates B03 (Yosem Companys) 18. UC Berkeley CITRIS Research Exchange for theSpring is now online (Yosem Companys) 19. [SPAM:] [SPAM:###] Davos 2015 takes aim at the future of the internet (and cyber-security) (Andrea St) 20. mySociety's new $3.6M investment from Omidyar Network, seeks to grow Poplus civic tech collaboration (Steven Clift) 21. Stanford Liberationtech Seminar: Will revolutionbe tweeted? - Jan 29 (Yosem Companys) 22. CfP - International Journal of Communication Special Issue - (Un)civil Society in Digital China (Jiang, Min) 23. Net neutrality case in Slovenia (Mitar) 24. Re: Net neutrality case in Slovenia (Rejo Zenger) 25. Testers sought for PassLok privacy (Francisco Ruiz) 26. Teknokultura Journal - latest issue (Javier de Rivera) 27. Call ESA 2015 Conference: ?Critical Media Sociology Today? (Christian Fuchs) 28. The Future of Security Journalism (J.M. Porup) 29. Re: The Future of Security Journalism (Eleanor Saitta) 30. Re: The Future of Security Journalism (J.M. Porup) 31. Free TechChange-USAID Course: How To Use Mobile Data Solutions for Better Development Outcomes (Nick Martin) 32. Marisol Sandoval: From Corporate to Social Media (CAMRI Seminar Feb 4) (Christian Fuchs) 33. Open Data Day Micro Grants - ODD is Feb 21st (Steven Clift) 34. Re: Iranian are bypass the Twitter censorship and sanction by their mobile phones (Collin Anderson) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:19:14 -0300 From: hellekin helle...@gnu.org To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Open Source Videoconference platform Message-ID: 54bc5b92.4000...@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/18/2015 11:16 AM, Andr?s Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote: Is there such a thing? Reliable? Skype sucks, and it is a Microsoft product now (too flickery, etc.), and I don't know of others.. *** Tox (https://tox.im/) is a promising alternative to Jitsi and XMPP/SIP. It specifically aims at replacing Skype. Still early, but already impressive. == hk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUvFuLXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFQ0IyNkIyRTNDNzEyMTc2OUEzNEM4ODU0 ODA2QzM2M0ZDMTg5ODNEAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9ffMP/03IbC3mW9nTIG73Mu9ev72S