Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 March 2010, wdg...@comcast.net was heard to say: I actually think you might be wrong on this one, Curt. I think you might know just how much I want to be wrong. That doesn't mean I'm going to be surprised. The militarization of the so-called police has been going on for a long time. Curt- - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBS6tkVS9Y35yItIgBAQKeKAf+Pd+nGzyS3B2APOl4PcyHZzuWj6Bf7BF8 dsjzPOKba5kUSlvVyh43NpTxYjHkKEynW4T5Bcj0Ez0a062poyviTZ88ymxnZq8h vJbDusUS9pRYOD8cBQPpdZIjSUN7G/3/YsHhp9r8e1W0VXTNrvhU+SLFbSjchPxU 0UdPamjKPHYSuZaf4F2dUoD9QQX27gL9J1y0fRB46NR+zas2AjdD54mV3rLs7LBk 2JLHsWYBdjlRGVjz2zosFiCd2Qhsx3BPQiBx55G6GhtSz2lv+kLIXpe5uauBEPDg uxqp4gVyDYxhVCxmCvsKnhRqM71tPTWpLQRNevvNjfD3a8tQ0lbbaQ== =2Zzl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy
At 11:15 AM 3/22/2010, you wrote: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/sale4.1.1.htmlhttp://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/sale4.1.1.html Vermont Secession Strategy by mailto:jke...@aol.comKirkpatrick Sale Thats all well and good. But unlike during the War to Prevent Southern Independence, this time the Imperial Feds have nukes. Do you really think that nest of dangerous sociopaths back in New Rome on the Potomac, would hesitate to use them?
Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 March 2010, Wraith was heard to say: Thats all well and good. But unlike during the War to Prevent Southern Independence, this time the Imperial Feds have nukes. Do you really think that nest of dangerous sociopaths back in New Rome on the Potomac, would hesitate to use them? No need for nukes against people armed with, at best, rifles. Think Prague Spring. The one and only hope is that the tanks rolling into Montpelier makes enough people angry enough that the cascade of nullification and secession happens in earnest. There is no hope what so ever of military success, because the military will OBEY their orders, just as they did under Lincoln. Curt- - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBS6ezGC9Y35yItIgBAQLAigf/UZsayikaTMSAGWoP6hrAXXos+4dYfsch WQr2tys1jLuSXMHRsxNlG8M7wJTaP4vRMWeMEAF3QHHHsxc8zvVoFRmqEsfxZUbZ lZDkiiHouuY+IMPlHL80WiKMLP4p6B/8+ebaj8yg8UTTGY+pl/917RdXYZc5ZSZ8 3Lqd5zl0R1iriLIi4YMF2ucRqhGwNCdC1Y5xQ1SiDrxxiFPgswpDWMKJHCyL3nt8 FE8KXRtHzifAvBbD04yHRMq7O0n5AxUXhCoNxNUdBDiDU//3RiBLtOF4qObpnOc9 6KQMc/ie9LrvnjGvb2kSIdaYNEnrSz2Ufuho1xJi20Glwjx83/u39Q== =fT/6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy
At 12:12 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 March 2010, Wraith was heard to say: Thats all well and good. But unlike during the War to Prevent Southern Independence, this time the Imperial Feds have nukes. Do you really think that nest of dangerous sociopaths back in New Rome on the Potomac, would hesitate to use them? No need for nukes against people armed with, at best, rifles. Think Prague Spring. The one and only hope is that the tanks rolling into Montpelier makes enough people angry enough that the cascade of nullification and secession happens in earnest. There is no hope what so ever of military success, because the military will OBEY their orders, just as they did under Lincoln. Curt- I was thinking more in general. If it spreads to 20 plus states, they are going to be damn hard pressed, given how spread out the imperial legions are. Not to mention at some point the military itself is going to fragment. Not all of them have forgotten their oaths are to the Constitution, not the government.
Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 March 2010, Wraith was heard to say: Not all of them have forgotten their oaths are to the Constitution, not the government. I'd put the benefit of that attribute on the same level as keeping my fingers crossed. - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBS6fRuS9Y35yItIgBAQLgeAf9EwffGm7csKZh/n6UlAggiKww9YsRDTQQ XkFxfEXWhTEKQPAmI1FP+8OhsOJDOYxcD/CiOtSS2aVH/+KNcAbB33+2D+lCdUj1 XcNsJ3rxOLXhZv0CAV8JosaoxIJYtr1Jn8QnSNDmV6KLGjK5s7TMLtkuBIJ413yv ZZ8ipoJdyq4Wc2qoEN42T9zEZo4NViKr8gOZrKz4du5Ldw6X26Okj3zNyRahsynJ c28GqAy+Q5bElMkvrDraFlW1ao6vG329ANhmlR6IRhNvF3noZJS+cjNeNbwK93EH bhZ6Pf6shLYCVeMkke16Sx1JpzGQw+xmK5dSZIAwNhl1RVbhqoaXuA== =Kg01 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy
I actually think you might be wrong on this one, Curt. The present military has actually had lessons taught to them in Basic about war crimes. Not that it always works, of course, since the guys who claim to run things send the kids over to places they weren't taught about in Sunday School. I got the lessons about ten months before the sack of Saigon (and was working on C-5s and C-141s at Travis the whole time the south fell, one of our C-5s didn't make it home, it fell into a swamp with a cargo of 600 doctors, nurses and children. Black boxes were never admitted to being recovered, anybody who'd ever worked on that plane was intensely debriefed -- yeah, me too). Official story was a structural failure of a structure that doesn't exist on that plane -- that was probably the genesis of my active anarchism, and I had three and a bit years left in the USAF -- thank whatever gods there might be that _Illuminatus!_ by Bob Shea and Bob Wilson was published as a Dell trilogy a few months previous to provide fresh inspiration. [I'd already been a fan of Heinlein and Rand for let's just call it a long damed time.) (I read _Rocket Ship Galileo_ when I was six, I read _Anthem_ when I was eight). I turn 55 in two months, anybody is welcome to work out the arithmetic. And free to wonder why I wound up in the USAF. (I still wonder myself, and I was there when I did it). -- Ward Griffithswdg...@comcast.net The Bible says (in Palms 90:10) that The days of our years are threescore years and ten, yet Xtians frequently defy G-d's will and continue to preach rather than commit suicide on their 70th birthday. Yeah, the Psalm says you're allowed to live to eighty, but you're going to suffer if you do that, so you might as well just kill yourself. Suicide is not a sin in the Old Testament, and I can't find the spot in the New Testament that changes the status. (This blasphemy is an original from me [wdg3rd], the sort of thing I strive for). - Curt Howland curt.howl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Curt Howland curt.howl...@gmail.com To: LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:12:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Vermont Secession Strategy -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 March 2010, Wraith was heard to say: Thats all well and good. But unlike during the War to Prevent Southern Independence, this time the Imperial Feds have nukes. Do you really think that nest of dangerous sociopaths back in New Rome on the Potomac, would hesitate to use them? No need for nukes against people armed with, at best, rifles. Think Prague Spring. The one and only hope is that the tanks rolling into Montpelier makes enough people angry enough that the cascade of nullification and secession happens in earnest. There is no hope what so ever of military success, because the military will OBEY their orders, just as they did under Lincoln. Curt- - -- Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.
