Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex

2011-01-30 Thread David Tardon
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:52:24AM +0300, Alexander wrote:
 When user insert formula, LO can be use LaTeX and make vector graphics (SVG ? 
 Or may be EPS),
 keep LaTeX source, put vector graphics in ODx and display it. This does 
 system-independent.
 
 In ODx can keep preamble and user can edit it.
 And may be add possibility separate preamble and for each formula.
 

There is an extension that does that: http://ooolatex.sourceforge.net/ .
Disclaimer: It's been a long time since I last tried it, so it's
possible it doesn't even work with LibreOffice :)

D.
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Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex

2011-01-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/11 09:21, Michael Meeks wrote:
 Hi Alexander,
 
 On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 02:52 +0300, Alexander wrote:
 I want to suggest to add in LO support LaTeX as formulas generator.
 Instead or jointly of Math.
 ..
 Currently, LO inherited old non-wide used StarOffice syntax for formulas.
 
   So - it is clear that the LaTeX syntax is well know; however it is also
 clear that we cannot import all of TeX into LibreOffice. Could we make
 this a problem of data input, and perhaps do some coercion under the
 hood into our MathML-like representation ?
 
   Anyhow - the math engine lives in starmath/ do have a poke in there,
 and see what can be done - even a proof of concept to convert the most
 simple LaTeX formulae to starmath form (and back) would be fun to see.
 
Dunno quite how it works, but take a look at the lilypond integration
with OOo.

Lilypond always USED to use TeX as its back-end, and there's some way
you can put lilypond code into OOo that then calls lilypond (and TeX) to
generate a graphic that gets pulled back into OOo. It's used for
producing complicated scores.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex

2011-01-28 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Alexander,

On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 02:52 +0300, Alexander wrote:
 I want to suggest to add in LO support LaTeX as formulas generator.
 Instead or jointly of Math.
..
 Currently, LO inherited old non-wide used StarOffice syntax for formulas.

So - it is clear that the LaTeX syntax is well know; however it is also
clear that we cannot import all of TeX into LibreOffice. Could we make
this a problem of data input, and perhaps do some coercion under the
hood into our MathML-like representation ?

Anyhow - the math engine lives in starmath/ do have a poke in there,
and see what can be done - even a proof of concept to convert the most
simple LaTeX formulae to starmath form (and back) would be fun to see.

ATB,

Michael.

-- 
 michael.me...@novell.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot


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Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex

2011-01-28 Thread John Thompson
On 2011-01-27, Alexander ara...@mail.ru wrote:

 I want to suggest to add in LO support LaTeX as formulas generator.
 Instead or jointly of Math.

Yes, integral LaTeX support would be awesome!

-- 

-John (j...@os2.dhs.org)

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Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex

2011-01-27 Thread Joshua Ismael

On 27/01/11 21:09, libreoffice-requ...@lists.freedesktop.org wrote:

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:52:24 +0300
From: Alexanderara...@mail.ru
Subject: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex
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Hi,

I want to suggest to add in LO support LaTeX as formulas generator.
Instead or jointly of Math.

Currently, LO inherited old non-wide used StarOffice syntax for formulas.

It creates inconveniences:

  * For LaTex users. They have got used its syntax and power.
  * For M$O users. They have got used GUI for type formulas.

(La)Tex make especially for scientific typography and free !

Pluses of this:

  * Power, extensible possibilities for formulas for different spheres of a 
sciences and technics.
  * LaTeX can make vector (for good quality printing and scale) and raster 
output
for WEB (in alt property of img tag can put LaTeX source as in 
Wikipedia).
  * Many users in scientific world get accustomed to its syntax.
  * Many users in Wikipedia (and other WiKi) get accustomed to its syntax.
  * Exists few GUI editors who can give LaTex output. KFormula (as minimum 
declared) and it can do LyX (but it self-sufficing editor). My be and others.
  * Inkscape can insert LaTeX formulas in drawings.
  * LaTeX can get formulas LaTeX.:)  Simplification at import/export.

When user insert formula, LO can be use LaTeX and make vector graphics (SVG ? 
Or may be EPS),
keep LaTeX source, put vector graphics in ODx and display it. This does 
system-independent.

In ODx can keep preamble and user can edit it.
And may be add possibility separate preamble and for each formula.

Troubles with formulas (first trouble: MathType formulas what displayed and 
printing as
very dirty OLE and non-edited) in OO -  LO make hard trouble for change
LO instead M$O in areas where formulas needed.


Good Luck !

Alexander


Actually I think this is a great idea because
that would make it possible to interact with
other software.

The only problem may be the ODF requirements
(if any) to use StarOffice syntax.

Greetings, Joshua
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Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice and (La)Tex

2011-01-27 Thread Alexander
 The only problem may be the ODF requirements
 (if any) to use StarOffice syntax.

Yes, this is problem. But can run temporary new and old realization in parallel?
And work on to put (La)TeX in ODF.
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