Re: [Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference
Hi Rainer, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-10-11 06:36) I will no be there and am not involved into any preparations, so I do not know what we are talking about. Unfortunately this and next week my job only will leave few time for LibO activity. Sorry to hear that you'll not be there. I just was lucky with my work that I could fold things around the conference. [...] And usually it also are ad hoc contributions that I make. As we all - more or less, and I believe that's a problem we have. Whether a bug will reach the fixing process is rather by pure chance, not the result of a reliable process. ok, we'll take that with us for the discussion. So talking about Improving the Development / QA cycle ... I feel I do not have enough real knowledge. Me too, I've just started to think about that. Currently I know from my statistics I'll look at those too. Thanks - it will help, as will your other suggestions. Together - though it may not be perfect - we know more. Hope you will have some interesting days, Thanks. Will do our best and communicate with you and the others about the meeting. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference
Hi Michael, Rainer, Doing some preparations for Paris, I see there is a discrepancy between the program on the website and the one in the spreadsheet, that can be downloaded. The website mentions Michael to do the QA session on Friday morning. The spreadsheet mentions me. I did not apply - I remember that Michael suggested the possibility. It's not that I feel not capable to hold a talk/session. However, I have not prepared anything and have hardly been able to do any QA work for the past 5+ weeks. And usually it also are ad hoc contributions that I make. So talking about Improving the Development / QA cycle ... I feel I do not have enough real knowledge. I can ask the same questions of course, as done on the list: present the same view, insight in factors that play a role in the process. However for many of those factors/areas I lack enough detailed knowledge to give some solid ground to a discussion, IMO, other then if then else then. If people are glad with some general overview and points at the QA and the dev side that need consideration and at best some harmonisation (apart from the extra hands that are welcome of course) ... well, OK. But then Rainer would be at least as good as me for that? So what do you think? Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (10-10-11 22:15) Looks like you're in charge :-) and/or you had a great list of questions. :-) This is your chance to discuss this, you've been concerned about it for a while, and we havn't managed to get to it. I'd really like to understand your concerns in detail, and perhaps others have similar / diverging views. I'm sure it is valuable. OK, if you (too) see it like this, then we take it as the opportunity for better understanding and exchanging ideas and details and such. I'll prepare myself for at least a good introduction on the topic for the session. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference
Hi, I will no be there and am not involved into any preparations, so I do not know what we are talking about. Unfortunately this and next week my job only will leave few time for LibO activity. [...] And usually it also are ad hoc contributions that I make. As we all - more or less, and I believe that's a problem we have. Whether a bug will reach the fixing process is rather by pure chance, not the result of a reliable process. So talking about Improving the Development / QA cycle ... I feel I do not have enough real knowledge. Me too, I've just started to think about that. Currently I know from my statistics http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:RBd/Workbench#Compare_Bugzilla_Activity_LibO_.3C-.3E_OOo that approximately 80 Bugzilla bugs per day have any changes. The average is that approximately 6 bugs will be terminated by a fix, being recognized as duplicate or something else. 15 per day are new reports, see following weekly statistic https://bugs.freedesktop.org/report.cgi?y_axis_field=cumulate=0z_axis_field=format=barx_axis_field=versionx_labels_vertical=1query_format=report-graphshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=LibreOfficelongdesc_type=allwordssubstrlongdesc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=allwordskeywords=resolution=FIXEDresolution=WONTFIXresolution=DUPLICATEresolution=WORKSFORMEresolution=MOVEDresolution=NOTABUGresolution=NOTOURBUGresolution=---emailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=chfieldfrom=-7dchfieldto=-0dchfield=[Bug+creation]chfieldvalue=action=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= but what exactly is the other activity, is that methodical or accidently, is there a possibility to organize the process more efficient? I'm thinking about that and hope that we can discuss that soon in a group of users with significant QA / Bug confirming activity. Preparations are on the way (with very small steps). But then Rainer would be at least as good as me for that? I'll be absent, sigh ... Hope you will have some interesting days, cheers Rainer ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
