Re: [Libreoffice] The Windows installer

[Tor Lillqvist]

 I see that it's an installer that includes all the languages but i 
 wonder if it is really necessary and if the languages are the only cause.

Well, there certainly isn't hundreds (or even tens) of megabytes of new code, 
as far as I know, so yes, it must be the languages.

 Even if the installed size is about 500 MB, isn't the installer too big? 
 I wonder what's the planned direction about it.

The plan is what the community consensus is. (Or what somebody is brave 
enough to just do, or is told to do.) Feel free to provide explicit suggestions 
how to package LibreOffice for Windows, and take part in discussion in the 
relevant forum. (This list? Or a Document Foundation list, or audio/IRC 
meeting? I don't know.) Of course, this is supposed to be a meritocracy, I 
think, so if you have actual experience in building and packaging OOo or LO 
installers, that gives you more clout.

 To me were more smart the go-oo approach: an english installer + the 
 interested language pack.

Sorry, but I think that is against the Document Foundation's Next Decade 
Manifesto, which says: WE REJECT: [...] the creeping domination of computer 
desktops by a single language forcing people to learn a foreign language before 
they can express themselves electronically

OK, so if an *installer* could be multi-lingual even if it installs just the 
English UI, what you say could be a viable approach. Currently that is not 
possible, as far as I know, but it should be possible to do it that way using 
some amount of work on the Perl code that directs the installer generation. 
Something to discuss, sure.

--tml


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[Libreoffice] The Windows installer

[Cesare Leonardi]

Hello guys, just some comments and question about the Windows installer 
from a user and a Win2000 tester.


Today i wanted to download LO-3.3.0-beta2 for Windows and i left 
speechless in front of the download size: 318 MB! More than 2 times than 
beta1.
I see that it's an installer that includes all the languages but i 
wonder if it is really necessary and if the languages are the only cause.


Unpacking the installer i see that it's all due to libreoffice1.cab: 
about 465 MB. Unpacking them too, i obtain 20401 file, totaling more 
than 1 GB.
Even if the installed size is about 500 MB, isn't the installer too big? 
I wonder what's the planned direction about it.
I were really happy to see a beta1 installer sensibly smaller than the 
official OOo...


To me were more smart the go-oo approach: an english installer + the 
interested language pack. The only thing that i wish it were different 
is an installed language pack integrated with the main application, with 
one entry in the control panel, so that when i have to uninstall it i 
have only to do it once. The language pack shouldn't be something that 
the user need to remove so frequently to deserve an entry in the control 
panel.


Libreoffice is a really promising project. I really hope that it will 
follow an unbloating process like did the Mozilla project in the past.


Keep up the good work.

Cesare.
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