There's a new problem. I checked around for middle dots, centered dots, etc.
The SAFE one is U+22C5, the Middle Dot in the extensive Unicode block on
Mathematical Operators, from U+2200 to U+22FF.
The dots that I saw in OpenSymbol are these: U+E146, U+E468, U+E466, U+E58D,
and U+E584. My copy of the Unicode Standard 4.0 says that these are all
PRIVATE USE SYMBOLS. This Private Use Area has existed since at least Unicode
3.2 and is unchanged in Unicode 6.0. See http://www.unicode.org/charts/.
These areas will never be defined by the Unicode Standard. These code points
can be freely used for characters of any purpose, but successful interchange
requires an agreement between sender and receiver on their interpretation.
Furthermore, the codes extending upward from U+E000 are intended for END-USER
assignment and the codes extending downward from U+F8FF are intended for
CORPORATE USE (including vendors, platform providers, etc.), the idea that the
chance of collision is reduced thereby. This is only a suggested convention,
however.
These depend on private agreements for having matching fonts or even being used
for visible characters. Something tells me you'll be hard-pressed to find
these in fonts on Windows unless you can send the OpenSymbol font to the
recipient.
I was aware that private use symbols were employed in some Sun fonts found in
OO.o documents, because the ODF specifications have some of them as bullets.
But I didn't realize that someone had the chutzpah to call that an OpenSymbol
set. Apparently, OpenSymbol is regarded by many as unique to OpenOffice.org
and it is thought to depend on them for bullets.
It looks like the need for OpenSymbol has diminished as more mathematical
symbols and special characters have been included in Unicode. Some of them are
similar to defined Unicode characters, but the seemingly duplicative OpenSymbol
characters seem to have different metrics for spacing and alignment in some
cases.
My recommendation is to use a defined Unicode character (and a font that
supports it) in preference to the same OpenSymbol character whenever possible.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: libreoffice-bounces+dennis.hamilton=acm@lists.freedesktop.org
[mailto:libreoffice-bounces+dennis.hamilton=acm@lists.freedesktop.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis E. Hamilton
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 09:43
To: 'Deve'; libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: LOffice Users List
Subject: Re: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols
I don't know which is CDOT in OpenSymbol (it looks like a vertically-centered
dot, but it appears attached to the b in the JPG and there are at least six
symbols that look like it in OpenSymbol), so I couldn't check this but ...
Do you have Lucida Sans Unicode on your installation of Writer? It may work
better to choose your symbols from there if you can find the ones you want.
Check the Unicode that LO Writer shows for the character in OpenSymbol and then
look at other fonts to see which ones also have the symbol for that Unicode
Code Point.
Look in the Insert | Special Character ... dialog for matches in different
fonts.
Not a perfect solution, but it might provide a work-around for now.
- Dennis
PS: I looked in Symbol and it doesn't have the character you want, so font
substitution won't help. But other fonts seem to have centered small dots.
-Original Message-
From: libreoffice-bounces+dennis.hamilton=acm@lists.freedesktop.org
[mailto:libreoffice-bounces+dennis.hamilton=acm@lists.freedesktop.org] On
Behalf Of Deve
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 01:37
To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols
http://pl.libreofficeforum.org/sites/default/files/uploads/deveee_files/ZRZUT_EKRANU10.jpg
http://pl.libreofficeforum.org/sites/default/files/uploads/deveee_files/ZRZUT_EKRANU20.jpg
I create math symbols on writer. It doesn't have font Symbol. Only
OpenSymbol. Next I send document to somebody, who have only MS Word.
He doesn't have OpenSymbol. Word doesn't display some symbols. For example
CDOT on math equation.
It's a problem when I must work with somebody who has only Word.
It could be solved if I could change font to official Symbol. But I don't see
it on properties.
Maybe better compatibility on saving to doc...
Any suggestions?
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