Re: Are the messages on the splash screen useful?

2012-09-28 Thread Stephan Bergmann

Terrence,

Any mails you sent to the list recently appear to be empty, not only for 
me locally but also at e.g. 
<http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-September/039011.html>. 
 (Given that Ivan apparently quotes your message intact in another 
answer to this mail, maybe you sent it to both him personally and the 
list, and there's some problem on your end sending mails to the list?)


Stephan

On 09/27/2012 07:39 PM, Terrence Enger wrote:





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Re: Are the messages on the splash screen useful?

2012-09-27 Thread Michael Meeks

On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 19:55 +0400, Ivan Timofeev wrote:
> There is Bug 52268 - Splash Screen: Messages on first start displayed in
> wrong colour in the wrong place
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52268

Annoying :-) we should fix that.

> and what I want to do is to remove those messages. Is that OK? I cannot
> imagine when the messages can be really useful. Moreover, messages come from

They are useful when we're doing a first-ever startup, and a lot of
heavy-lifting gets done during that first run: creating your home
directory skeleton, compiling help, registering extensions etc. etc.

Luckily a lot of this is getting a lot quicker with Stephan's work, and
we shouldn't really be stuffing tons of duplicate stuff in per-user
directories anyway, so - perhaps in future it'll not be necessary (we
hope ;-).

I guess for slow tasks, it gives the user the impression something is
happening while they start [ though the progress bar can give that too
but is not very granular ].

ATB,

Michael.

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Re: Are the messages on the splash screen useful?

2012-09-27 Thread Ivan Timofeev
Hi Terrence,

On 27.09.2012 21:39, Terrence Enger wrote:
> What messages?  Yes, that is an answer .
> 
> ( Wait a minute. ... Okay, I'm back. )
> 
> With LO master, commit b6e33e2, pulled on 2012-09-17, built and
> running on ubuntu-natty (11.04) with desktop "ubuntu classic (no
> effects)", all I see on the splash screen is message "LibreOffice" and
> the progress bar.

Forgot to mention: on linux the messages are not shown at all. Another
reason to remove them completely. :)

Cheers,
Ivan
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Re: Are the messages on the splash screen useful?

2012-09-27 Thread Terrence Enger




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Are the messages on the splash screen useful?

2012-09-27 Thread Ivan Timofeev
Hi,

There is Bug 52268 - Splash Screen: Messages on first start displayed in
wrong colour in the wrong place
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52268

and what I want to do is to remove those messages. Is that OK? I cannot
imagine when the messages can be really useful. Moreover, messages come from

 commit 85c93f5779b0382769cf9dfb5a6306a018c17edd
 Author: Dirk Voelzke 
 Date:   Tue Apr 20 07:59:05 2010 +0200

 jl152 import 263447 from native0jl:#i77196#  Show progress on startup

i.e. only 2010, the API (SplashScreen::setText()) was there since the
first commit.

Regards,
Ivan
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