Re: Does anyone use windows

[Jan Iversen]

> On 16 Feb 2017, at 19:26, Abulfaz Ahmadov  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys!
> Does anyone of you use windows for libreoffice development?Do you have some 
> experience with Visual studio 2015?It's written on set up page that it 
> probabbly won't work,and it's recommended to use Visual studio 2013 with 
> updates

We had a discussion about exact this theme at todays ESC meeting.

Some of us test VS 2015, but do not use it for production. If you look in the 
ESC minutes you will see:
——
* Bump master baseline from MSVC 2013 to 2015? (Stephan)
   + see mail 
> 
“Support new and discontinue old compilers” from David O.
   + tried to contact all the buildbot / tinderbox owners
+ not contacted (Norbert)
 + installed 2015 on the box a year ago.
 + 64bit release worked, but all else failed.
+ Concerned that:
 + does release & dbgutil profiles build ?
 + VS 2013 parallel builds should work too – need to use 2013
+ bots using 2013 (Cloph, Thorsten)
+ failed try to build 2015 last week (Thorsten)
 + works for Stephan.
+ time to try it again.
   + Is 32bit tested ? - the concern here it seems.
+ otherwise eager to try again.
   + MSDN issue ? → solution to use Community Edition Visual Studio.
+ buy windows server licenses, scrape Office versions from here & there.
AI: + test build configuations (Norbert)
   + Is there any gain of functionality with 2015 ?
+ not that much (Stephan)
+ some unicode bits, some improved const_expr bits.
+ just avoiding technical debt.
+ de-duplicate python versions (Miklos)
   + Not aware of any loss of functionality (Stephan)
—

So right now VS 2013 is the recommend version, as I see it we are still a bit 
away from moving up to VS 2015. That being said you can work with VS2015, 
depending on your configuration.

rgds
jan I.

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Does anyone use windows

[David Ostrovsky]

On Thu Feb 16 18:26:00 UTC 2017 Abulfaz Ahmadov wrote:

>Does anyone of you use windows for libreoffice development?

No.

>Do you have some
>experience with Visual studio 2015?It's written on set up page that it
>probabbly won't work,and it's recommended to use Visual studio 2013
>with updates

This statement on the wiki: "... 2013 the preferred compiler for new
developers" is stale and must be removed. This statement pre-dated
two major fixes for VS 2015 and VS 2017 compilers, that were merged
very recently: [1], [2].

Moreover, for developer builds with debug mode enabled, with this diff
pending for review: [3] applied, there should be significant
performance benefit to use VS 2015 (not to mention VS 2017) compared to
VS 2013.

It worth also noting that VS 2013 is slated for removal, see recent ESC minutes.

* [1] 
 
"Keep original CFLAGS etc. unmodified in configure.ac" will hopefully 
fix that.
* [2] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/33366/
VC++ Runtime installed in wrong directory
* [3] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/34330/
Use /debug:fastlink linker option to improve link performance

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Re: Does anyone use windows

[slacka]

That is not what the wiki says. It says "Visual Studio 2013 is the preferred
compiler for new developers." It also goes on to say "Visual Studio 2015 is
known to work on current master."  If you are a new developer, I suggest you
follow the wiki's advice. The wiki contains everything you need to get
started and is full of useful tips. I suggest you try to read it before
asking for more help.



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Does anyone use windows

[Abulfaz Ahmadov]

Hi guys!
Does anyone of you use windows for libreoffice development?Do you have some
experience with Visual studio 2015?It's written on set up page that it
probabbly won't work,and it's recommended to use Visual studio 2013 with
updates
Thanks,
Abulfaz
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