Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09

2024-05-10 Thread Timur 

On 10.5.2024. 07:53, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

On 5/9/24 16:53, Miklos Vajna wrote:
 + MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but 
not Linux (Hossein)

   + rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
   + for the ones taking binaries from TDF
   + TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
   + the files are hosted already
   + just the repo defs are missing
   + suggesting to provide these repos
   + proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
   + interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
 + the important part is the description / dependencies 
(Hossein)

 + willing to help
   + linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
 + so not a huge amount, but not objecting
 + only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
   + what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF 
releases? (Olivier)

 + the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
 + similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
   + with actively supported versions
 + see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)


And, just to mention it again, for Linux there's also always the 
Flatpak version on Flathub, 
.  I'm still 
providing builds there on a somewhat voluntary basis, usually as soon 
as a new version of LO gets released.



No wonder that Linux downloads are small, not only because there may be 
more Windows users, but also because LO is already in distro, and for 
Ubuntu-flavor users there is PPA (1). Link would be useful at download 
page (2).


If "TDF to provide rpm/deb repos" is done, it is still of benefit to 
other Linux users, and link is also welcome.


https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/

Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09

2024-05-09 Thread Stephan Bergmann 

On 5/9/24 16:53, Miklos Vajna wrote:
     + MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but not 
Linux (Hossein)

   + rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
   + for the ones taking binaries from TDF
   + TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
   + the files are hosted already
   + just the repo defs are missing
   + suggesting to provide these repos
   + proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
   + interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
     + the important part is the description / dependencies (Hossein)
     + willing to help
   + linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
     + so not a huge amount, but not objecting
     + only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
   + what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF 
releases? (Olivier)

     + the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
     + similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
   + with actively supported versions
     + see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)


And, just to mention it again, for Linux there's also always the Flatpak 
version on Flathub, 
.  I'm still 
providing builds there on a somewhat voluntary basis, usually as soon as 
a new version of LO gets released.

Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09

2024-05-09 Thread Stephan Bergmann 

On 5/9/24 16:53, Miklos Vajna wrote:
     + MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but not 
Linux (Hossein)

   + rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
   + for the ones taking binaries from TDF
   + TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
   + the files are hosted already
   + just the repo defs are missing
   + suggesting to provide these repos
   + proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
   + interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
     + the important part is the description / dependencies (Hossein)
     + willing to help
   + linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
     + so not a huge amount, but not objecting
     + only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
   + what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF 
releases? (Olivier)

     + the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
     + similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
   + with actively supported versions
     + see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)


And, just to mention it again, for Linux there's also always the Flatpak 
version on Flathub, 
.  I'm still 
providing builds there on a somewhat voluntary basis, usually as soon as 
a new version of LO gets released.

ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09

2024-05-09 Thread Miklos Vajna 

* Present:
+ Cloph, Gabriel, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Olivier, Xisco, 
sockseight, Caolan, Stephane, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 release: this week, tomorrow
+ 24.2: 24.2.4 RC1 in 1 week
+ 24.8: first alpha this week, from master, tomorrow
  + week 23 is the feature freeze, 4 weeks
+ string / UI freeze 4 weeks after that
  + if you have a late feature proposal, announce that here
+ MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but not Linux 
(Hossein)
  + rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
  + for the ones taking binaries from TDF
  + TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
  + the files are hosted already
  + just the repo defs are missing
  + suggesting to provide these repos
  + proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
  + interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
+ the important part is the description / dependencies (Hossein)
+ willing to help
  + linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
+ so not a huge amount, but not objecting
+ only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
  + what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF releases? 
(Olivier)
+ the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
+ similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
  + with actively supported versions
+ see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
   + Updates and fixes (A Gelmini. S. Horacek, fitoshido)
   + Changes in makefiles (cloph)
   + Updates in doc properties (Dublin Core) by Dione Maddern
+ Core
   + Extended tips for sparklines
+ Guides
   + important fix by M. Stahl will trigger format review
  + in all guides,
  + starting after LO 24.2.4
  + tdf#159366
+ bugs with >20 comments
  + hard to follow, to understand what is the actual request
  + sometimes asking: if this feature is still used
  + thanks to the precise bugreports
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
263(263) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 14(5)39(2) 107(7) 225(4)
 commented 20(10)   61(0) 255(5) 854(6)
  resolved  7(2)23(5)  54(6) 121(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 42 changes in 1 month, and 239 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 28 changes in 1 month, and 253 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 
year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 
year
  Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 5 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
  nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
  Kira Tubo made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 35(35) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  4(-1)10(1) 15(-1)  21(-3)
 commented 64(48)   186(30)   525(-6)1761(-60)
   removed  0(-2) 4(-1) 5(0)   12(-1)
  resolved  8(2) 31(1) 79(-2) 308(-7)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 110 changes in 1 month, and 1031 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 108 changes in 1 month, and 317 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 51 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 21 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 18 changes in 1 month, and 139 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1 
year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 10 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
  Ady made 6 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
  jan d made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 161002] Missing item "Insert/Filed/More Fields.." in LibreOffice Draw
+ [Bug 160986] show 'X %' instead of 'X%'
+ [Bug 153309] Prevent direct formatting on writer by a password.
 -> + [Bug 98902] Right clicking on selected text unselects it if the cursor is 
on
   a misspelled word
+ [Bug 160955] When selecting an alternative link target for an OLE object, 
button
  says

ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09

2024-05-09 Thread Miklos Vajna 

* Present:
+ Cloph, Gabriel, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Olivier, Xisco, 
sockseight, Caolan, Stephane, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 release: this week, tomorrow
+ 24.2: 24.2.4 RC1 in 1 week
+ 24.8: first alpha this week, from master, tomorrow
  + week 23 is the feature freeze, 4 weeks
+ string / UI freeze 4 weeks after that
  + if you have a late feature proposal, announce that here
+ MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but not Linux 
(Hossein)
  + rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
  + for the ones taking binaries from TDF
  + TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
  + the files are hosted already
  + just the repo defs are missing
  + suggesting to provide these repos
  + proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
  + interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
+ the important part is the description / dependencies (Hossein)
+ willing to help
  + linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
+ so not a huge amount, but not objecting
+ only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
  + what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF releases? 
(Olivier)
+ the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
+ similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
  + with actively supported versions
+ see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
   + Updates and fixes (A Gelmini. S. Horacek, fitoshido)
   + Changes in makefiles (cloph)
   + Updates in doc properties (Dublin Core) by Dione Maddern
+ Core
   + Extended tips for sparklines
+ Guides
   + important fix by M. Stahl will trigger format review
  + in all guides,
  + starting after LO 24.2.4
  + tdf#159366
+ bugs with >20 comments
  + hard to follow, to understand what is the actual request
  + sometimes asking: if this feature is still used
  + thanks to the precise bugreports
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
263(263) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 14(5)39(2) 107(7) 225(4)
 commented 20(10)   61(0) 255(5) 854(6)
  resolved  7(2)23(5)  54(6) 121(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 42 changes in 1 month, and 239 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 28 changes in 1 month, and 253 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 
year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 
year
  Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 5 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
  nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
  Kira Tubo made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 35(35) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  4(-1)10(1) 15(-1)  21(-3)
 commented 64(48)   186(30)   525(-6)1761(-60)
   removed  0(-2) 4(-1) 5(0)   12(-1)
  resolved  8(2) 31(1) 79(-2) 308(-7)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 110 changes in 1 month, and 1031 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 108 changes in 1 month, and 317 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 51 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 21 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 18 changes in 1 month, and 139 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1 
year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 10 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
  Ady made 6 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
  jan d made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 161002] Missing item "Insert/Filed/More Fields.." in LibreOffice Draw
+ [Bug 160986] show 'X %' instead of 'X%'
+ [Bug 153309] Prevent direct formatting on writer by a password.
 -> + [Bug 98902] Right clicking on selected text unselects it if the cursor is 
on
   a misspelled word
+ [Bug 160955] When selecting an alternative link target for an OLE object, 
button
  says