Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-03

2017-08-08 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sat, 2017-08-05 at 22:15 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Le 03/08/2017 à 21:23, Caolán McNamara a écrit :
> > On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> > > * l10n (Sophie/Christian)
> > >  + duplicate strings in templates w/ gettext on master:
> > >mainly in sd/messages.pot – printindialog.ui from various
> > >subdirs
> > >+ preferred would be: have them in separate files
> > 
> > I guess this is sd/uiconfig/sdraw/ui/printeroptions.ui and
> > sd/uiconfig/simpress/ui/printeroptions.ui. Is the problem just with
> > the output of "make translations" i.e. the generated
> > workdir/sd/messages.pot if so, then yeah a simple rename will do
> > the
> > tricky, i.e. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40747/ and that
> > seems
> > to be the only case (according to msgcat workdir/*/messages.pot)
> 
> There is this bug report, still unconfirmed:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107611
> duplicate message definitions in some .pot files

That one however is (up to) 5-4 so not exactly the reported problem
here. Though I think a side effect (now that the above change is done)
of the changes for gettext is that tdf#107611 should be gone in master
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Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-03

2017-08-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure

Hi,

Le 03/08/2017 à 21:23, Caolán McNamara a écrit :

On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* l10n (Sophie/Christian)
 + duplicate strings in templates w/ gettext on master:
   mainly in sd/messages.pot – printindialog.ui from various
   subdirs
   + preferred would be: have them in separate files


I guess this is sd/uiconfig/sdraw/ui/printeroptions.ui and
sd/uiconfig/simpress/ui/printeroptions.ui. Is the problem just with
the output of "make translations" i.e. the generated
workdir/sd/messages.pot if so, then yeah a simple rename will do the
tricky, i.e. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40747/ and that seems
to be the only case (according to msgcat workdir/*/messages.pot)


There is this bug report, still unconfirmed:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107611
duplicate message definitions in some .pot files

Best regards.
JBF

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Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-03

2017-08-03 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * l10n (Sophie/Christian)
> + duplicate strings in templates w/ gettext on master:
>   mainly in sd/messages.pot – printindialog.ui from various 
>   subdirs
>   + preferred would be: have them in separate files

I guess this is sd/uiconfig/sdraw/ui/printeroptions.ui and
sd/uiconfig/simpress/ui/printeroptions.ui. Is the problem just with
the output of "make translations" i.e. the generated
workdir/sd/messages.pot if so, then yeah a simple rename will do the
tricky, i.e. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40747/ and that seems
to be the only case (according to msgcat workdir/*/messages.pot)
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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-03

2017-08-03 Thread Miklos Vajna
* Present:
+ Olivier, Miklos, Jan-Marek, Cloph, Xisco, Armin, Heiko

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ https://wiki.docume ntfoundation.org/Development/ScreenshotsAtInstall
+ work out what a good idea is here (Kendy, Thorsten)
+ build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco)
  [ line-spacing, still on working on it ]
+ get access for Xisco for the TDF macs or buy a Mac for Xisco (Christian)
  [ not yet solved; Jan-Marek could send his Mac Mini, as it’s unused now ]
+ create redirect / transparent proxy so that we can use
  help.libreoffice.org directly even for the new stuff (Cloph)
  [ still pending ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.4.0 final
+ signing problem on Windows, probably anti-virus
+ may be also Windows installation service not running
+ 3-4 reports so far, might be related to the new feedback address
+ 5.3.5 final is out
+ 5.4.1 RC1 
+ next week
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ Android viewer
+ will promote next version from beta to final
+ Online

* Tender oversight (Florian)
+ Nothing new on this, would be helpful to have volunteers devs around for 
this (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ last week was development for SEO
+ same development also for help-online
+ tweaks on the URL, as discussed with Kendy
+ master LO: jumps to helponline directly
+ stable LO (5.3, 5.4): still the old site, will remove it in the long 
run
+ meetings with the doc team, some people are showing up
+ plan is to have a 6.0 introductury book at 6.0 launch-time
+ various help page fixes

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ default format in Impress: slide dimension (4.3 → 16:9)
+ majority is in favor of the change
+ also need new templates
+ if someone is interested in evaluating various template proposals
+ more than welcome
+ survey: uses of LibreOffice
+ no major changes in results (as expected)
+ past month: decline in participation
+ trying to find out the reason
+ one hour before the ESC is the new idea

+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
257(257) (topicUI) bugs open, 441(441) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated
by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  3(0)   7(-1)34(1)  368(-10)
 commented 28(-36)   158(-5)   527(-1)3335(-13)
   removed  0(-1)  1(0)  4(0)   43(0)  
  resolved 10(-8) 33(8) 58(10) 274(10) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 134 changes in 1 month, and 1562 changes in 1 year
  Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 43 changes in 1 month, and 460 changes in 
1 y.
  Philips, Yousuf made 38 changes in 1 month, and 1522 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 36 changes in 1 month, and 390 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 26 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 21 changes in 1 month, and 578 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 15 changes in 1 month, and 138 changes in 1 year
  Budea, Áron made 9 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 9 changes in 1 month, and 354 changes in 1 year
  Zolnai, Tamás made 9 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year

  + Changing default page format in Impress to 16:9 based on G+ poll (pro >70%)
better/more 16:9 templates next step 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rd2oHyCMaQLWvDj3ciorJZkILsaoZV0FhomiLEsCago

  + input about Open Source survey taken and rework in progress, 
translation next step

  + meeting time 3pm utc+2 from next week on 

* Crash Reporting (Caolan)
+ 22(+0) import failure, 579(+0) export failures
+ not changed since last week
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporter (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.3.2
+ 3002 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2
+ 2523 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.5.1
+ 5 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.0.3
+ 650 (last 7 days)

+ Open bugs with a signature : 39 (+4)
 + http://bit.ly/2qZIC1H

+ 5.3.4 has less crashes than 5.3.3, good thing

* Hackfests & Events (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions 
+ GUADEC: 28th July - 2nd Aug (Michael)
+ advertising the good things around flatpak / gtk3 integration

* Call for Papers for the LibreOffice conference
+ deadline August 15th.
+ 1 week!!!
+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/2017/call-for-papers-3/

* mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok)
  committer...   1 

Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-03

2017-08-03 Thread Miklos Vajna
* Present:
+ Olivier, Miklos, Jan-Marek, Cloph, Xisco, Armin, Heiko

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ https://wiki.docume ntfoundation.org/Development/ScreenshotsAtInstall
+ work out what a good idea is here (Kendy, Thorsten)
+ build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco)
  [ line-spacing, still on working on it ]
+ get access for Xisco for the TDF macs or buy a Mac for Xisco (Christian)
  [ not yet solved; Jan-Marek could send his Mac Mini, as it’s unused now ]
+ create redirect / transparent proxy so that we can use
  help.libreoffice.org directly even for the new stuff (Cloph)
  [ still pending ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.4.0 final
+ signing problem on Windows, probably anti-virus
+ may be also Windows installation service not running
+ 3-4 reports so far, might be related to the new feedback address
+ 5.3.5 final is out
+ 5.4.1 RC1 
+ next week
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ Android viewer
+ will promote next version from beta to final
+ Online

* Tender oversight (Florian)
+ Nothing new on this, would be helpful to have volunteers devs around for 
this (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ last week was development for SEO
+ same development also for help-online
+ tweaks on the URL, as discussed with Kendy
+ master LO: jumps to helponline directly
+ stable LO (5.3, 5.4): still the old site, will remove it in the long 
run
+ meetings with the doc team, some people are showing up
+ plan is to have a 6.0 introductury book at 6.0 launch-time
+ various help page fixes

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ default format in Impress: slide dimension (4.3 → 16:9)
+ majority is in favor of the change
+ also need new templates
+ if someone is interested in evaluating various template proposals
+ more than welcome
+ survey: uses of LibreOffice
+ no major changes in results (as expected)
+ past month: decline in participation
+ trying to find out the reason
+ one hour before the ESC is the new idea

+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
257(257) (topicUI) bugs open, 441(441) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated
by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  3(0)   7(-1)34(1)  368(-10)
 commented 28(-36)   158(-5)   527(-1)3335(-13)
   removed  0(-1)  1(0)  4(0)   43(0)  
  resolved 10(-8) 33(8) 58(10) 274(10) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 134 changes in 1 month, and 1562 changes in 1 year
  Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 43 changes in 1 month, and 460 changes in 
1 y.
  Philips, Yousuf made 38 changes in 1 month, and 1522 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 36 changes in 1 month, and 390 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 26 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 21 changes in 1 month, and 578 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 15 changes in 1 month, and 138 changes in 1 year
  Budea, Áron made 9 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 9 changes in 1 month, and 354 changes in 1 year
  Zolnai, Tamás made 9 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year

  + Changing default page format in Impress to 16:9 based on G+ poll (pro >70%)
better/more 16:9 templates next step 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rd2oHyCMaQLWvDj3ciorJZkILsaoZV0FhomiLEsCago

  + input about Open Source survey taken and rework in progress, 
translation next step

  + meeting time 3pm utc+2 from next week on 

* Crash Reporting (Caolan)
+ 22(+0) import failure, 579(+0) export failures
+ not changed since last week
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporter (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.3.2
+ 3002 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2
+ 2523 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.5.1
+ 5 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.0.3
+ 650 (last 7 days)

+ Open bugs with a signature : 39 (+4)
 + http://bit.ly/2qZIC1H

+ 5.3.4 has less crashes than 5.3.3, good thing

* Hackfests & Events (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions 
+ GUADEC: 28th July - 2nd Aug (Michael)
+ advertising the good things around flatpak / gtk3 integration

* Call for Papers for the LibreOffice conference
+ deadline August 15th.
+ 1 week!!!
+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/2017/call-for-papers-3/

* mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok)
  committer...   1