Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
Just a quick note. Have sent off the formal request to the OHLF organizers..will keep folks posted as specifics firm up. Thanks, drew ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:58 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 14:31 -0700, John LeMoyne Castle wrote: Drew, I appreciate your position and your moderate, thoughtful questions and responses all across the several boards I have seen them on. I am still attracted to Apache and their OO project, but I finally balked on the proposal so clearly NOT written by a community or its representatives. My late and non-binding vote -- http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg29462.html Hi John, Honestly I was optimistic also but... I'm rather sorry about the whole 'punish me' line in my earlier email - but a couple of days after I put my name on the ASF wiki someone in India went to my facebook wall and started a survey titled 'Drew should be kiled' yes/no. I blew it off with a joke response and FB was kind enough to remove the survey entry - followed by a few emails over the next couple of days with suggestions ranging from taking a long walk of a short pier to one request to perform an act which quite frankly I don't think is physically possible. Anyway, I should not of let the fringe element color my interaction here. :-( I know it is easier said than done, but I would advise to classify these in the 'misguided idots' files. Back to the subject of this thread, +1 I am interested in participating in a HackFest and maybe even more interested if it has a QA focus. Distributed devlopment is tough, distributed QA needs definition and a lot of eyes on it. Sadly, I do not see a way to attend. From the mountain west, Ohio is only one order of magnitude closer than Europe and my car croaked last year. Please let me know of any virtual attendance or way to work in parallel that you devise. Thanks for the offer and I'll do my best to find a way to take you up on it - shouldn't be all that hard to devise, if nothing else just knowing that there would be people hanging out on IRC at the right time would help I think. That would be much more workable for me than a 2000 miles road trip :-) Norbert ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 02:27 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: big snip Please let me know of any virtual attendance or way to work in parallel that you devise. Thanks for the offer and I'll do my best to find a way to take you up on it - shouldn't be all that hard to devise, if nothing else just knowing that there would be people hanging out on IRC at the right time would help I think. That would be much more workable for me than a 2000 miles road trip :-) Hi Folks, Alright then - I've sent an email to the contact at OHLF to get the ball rolling. Does it make sense, I think it does, to include one of you as CC on the planning emails gong forward? If so let me know who. //drew ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
Hello Drew, Just a small comment in passing. I am shocked and dismayed to hear that people have attempted to bully or pressure you. It is despicable, but as Norbert wrote, these are the misguided idiots. We are all free individuals with the ability to think freely for ourselves, and whatever someone thinks of the opinion of someone else, this opinion and the person has to be respected anyway. This being said, we're glad to have you on board and are thankful for everything you're doing for the LibreOffice project. Take care, Charles. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 16:13 -0400, drew wrote: Howdy, Had a chance to speak with one of the organizers for the Ohio Linux fest (Columbus, Ohio, USA) regarding the possibility of holding a LibreOffice hackfest/QA session. They are quite interested and motivated to help us do this. The date would be Friday September 9th, this day is mostly used at this event for hand-on training and certification testing. As this point the show organizers are waiting to here from us regarding our interest in putting this together. Before pursuing this with them and either waisting everyones time or setting up one big FAIL I would like to see if there is interest from other community members, particularly developers, willing to help. Let me know - sooner is much better then later on this. Hello Again, Well, I suppose there is something that I need to say to you folks - and I am talking directly the developer crew. I put my name on the apache project earlier commiter list - yes I did. If you want to know why feel free to ask me on list. But folks I'm a fairly simple guy, I don't do 'circles in circles, or have hidden agendas. The idea for this project pre-dates anything to do with Apache, it is about and for LibreOffice, period - full stop. The idea is to help expand the base of people contributing to our project - period. I can not do it however without active support from you, the developers - there are some things I can help with but actually helping make sense of the code isn't one of them, not in this time frame. Right now there is a window of opportunity with the organizers a OLF and the organizers of SELF have said they will be watching with a possibility of doing this next year in South Carolina. Today I received word that the organizers of NWLF (North West Linux Fest) will also be watching and interest in this type of event also. In other words there is a reasonable chance to turn this into something that can get legs and maybe do it every 2 months across the USA next year. So - if you need to punish me for my putting my name on that list at the other place, that is your prerogative but please reconsider and at least talk to me about things before you make judgments. Thanks and best wishes, Drew Jensen Proud member of the Document Foundation ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 16:13 -0400, drew wrote: So - if you need to punish me for my putting my name on that list at the other place, that is your prerogative but please reconsider and at least talk to me about things before you make judgments. Did I miss something ? Yes, I saw you name on the Apache commiter list... No, I did not draw any conclusion other than you are interested in that endeavor... which is fine... It your free time and yours to allocate according to your fancy. No, I have no intention to 'punish' you for that, nor that notion even crossed my mind or was in anyway a factor in my responses. Hence my conclusion: I must have missed some part of the conversation at some point :-( Norbert ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 13:48 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 16:13 -0400, drew wrote: So - if you need to punish me for my putting my name on that list at the other place, that is your prerogative but please reconsider and at least talk to me about things before you make judgments. Did I miss something ? Yes, I saw you name on the Apache commiter list... No, I did not draw any conclusion other than you are interested in that endeavor... which is fine... It your free time and yours to allocate according to your fancy. No, I have no intention to 'punish' you for that, nor that notion even crossed my mind or was in anyway a factor in my responses. Hi Norbert, Hence my conclusion: I must have missed some part of the conversation at some point :-( Then you have my apology. I'll just chalk the silence here up to really poor timing. As for the actual event - I suppose I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on trying to setup the logistics with the OLF folks and just keep my fingers crossed as for developer support - and hit the books for my part, so to speak. Thanks once again for a quick reply and best wishes, //drew ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
Drew, I appreciate your position and your moderate, thoughtful questions and responses all across the several boards I have seen them on. I am still attracted to Apache and their OO project, but I finally balked on the proposal so clearly NOT written by a community or its representatives. My late and non-binding vote -- http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg29462.html Back to the subject of this thread, I am interested in participating in a HackFest and maybe even more interested if it has a QA focus. Distributed devlopment is tough, distributed QA needs definition and a lot of eyes on it. Sadly, I do not see a way to attend. From the mountain west, Ohio is only one order of magnitude closer than Europe and my car croaked last year. Please let me know of any virtual attendance or way to work in parallel that you devise. A distributed hackfest may pique more interest by the later LFs as well. Best Wishes, LeMoyne -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest-September-9th-Ohio-Linux-Fest-tp3069282p3078108.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Hackfest - September 9th, Ohio Linux Fest
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 14:31 -0700, John LeMoyne Castle wrote: Drew, I appreciate your position and your moderate, thoughtful questions and responses all across the several boards I have seen them on. I am still attracted to Apache and their OO project, but I finally balked on the proposal so clearly NOT written by a community or its representatives. My late and non-binding vote -- http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg29462.html Hi John, Honestly I was optimistic also but... I'm rather sorry about the whole 'punish me' line in my earlier email - but a couple of days after I put my name on the ASF wiki someone in India went to my facebook wall and started a survey titled 'Drew should be kiled' yes/no. I blew it off with a joke response and FB was kind enough to remove the survey entry - followed by a few emails over the next couple of days with suggestions ranging from taking a long walk of a short pier to one request to perform an act which quite frankly I don't think is physically possible. Anyway, I should not of let the fringe element color my interaction here. Back to the subject of this thread, +1 I am interested in participating in a HackFest and maybe even more interested if it has a QA focus. Distributed devlopment is tough, distributed QA needs definition and a lot of eyes on it. Sadly, I do not see a way to attend. From the mountain west, Ohio is only one order of magnitude closer than Europe and my car croaked last year. Please let me know of any virtual attendance or way to work in parallel that you devise. Thanks for the offer and I'll do my best to find a way to take you up on it - shouldn't be all that hard to devise, if nothing else just knowing that there would be people hanging out on IRC at the right time would help I think. A distributed hackfest may pique more interest by the later LFs as well. Best wishes, Drew ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice