Re: [Libreoffice] Promoting LibO to Vietnamese students by completing easy hacks
Hi Vu Hung, On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 00:26 +0700, Nguyen Vu Hung (KiEi) wrote: As for the regulation of MHST, I propose that I will firstly register LibO team as a mentor; and I will take care of the Vietnam side. Could you enlighten us about some points about MHST? Is it working exactly like GSoc (1 student, 1 project, one potential winner) or is it more like a team project with one project? This would help us see what kind of project(s) is needed for the students. Some important deadlines: 2011/04/30: Deadline for mentor's (and his/her ideas) registration. Ok, sounds like we need to hurry up a bit then ;) 2011/05/01 - 2011/05/29: (team of) students' proposal registration 2011/05/30 - 2011/06/05: Announce the list of selected teams and students 2011/06/06 - 2011/09/04: Coding :) MHST 2011 Information http://www.olp.vn/mhst/thong-tin Prizes http://www.olp.vn/mhst/giai-thuong Registration http://www.olp.vn/mhst/dang-ky List of MHST ideas http://www.olp.vn/mhst/danh-sach-y-tuong Guidelines http://www.olp.vn/mhst/huong-dan Google translate will be our friend here ;) The developers are the mentors and I step back as the one who fill the gaps between the developers and the students. Cool! Are there some vietnamese developers that could help mentoring and start gaining experience on the LO dev? Sure, but don't go too quickly with the tasks from the GSoc as the students aren't selected yet. I didn't know that :) Anyway, the deadline for picking an idea is 2011/04/30 What we can do: you copy the whole lot of ideas now and you remove the ones selected for GSoc when Google has announced the selected students. This way Vietnamese students can start working on their proposals. We can keep some private communication about the topic you know vietnamese students are about to pick: I could tell you if you would need to redirect the student on another task. It's better to tell the students to be careful that some of those projects may already have been picked. WRT the EasyHacks, tasks are sorted by difficulty and students should pick tasks in section 6 - Programming tasks. I see. Probably you have to fill some more programming tasks. My concern is, can we allocate the right developer as the mentor for a programming task? The GSoc ideas page is pretty OK on that point, but not the easy hack page. I'ld prefer keeping things on the GSoc ideas page. Regards, -- Cédric Bosdonnat LibreOffice hacker http://documentfoundation.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Promoting LibO to Vietnamese students by completing easy hacks
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 07:42 +0700, Nguyen Vu Hung (KiEi) wrote: The reason we have our own version of Gsoc in Vietnam is that students' English skill is not so good. Ho hum :-) I'd feel a lot better if you guys worked with Google to translate task specifications to Vietnamese and stuck with their process. There are problems with being seen as undermining GSOC. As to promote LibO *development* in Vietnam, I would like to ask developers at LibO become a technical co-mentors, and myself will be a co-mentor who bridges the gaps between you and the student(s). This would be a great way to work with GSOC. Anyhow - of course, we are always eager to get people funded to work on LibreOffice in whatever way is possible. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Promoting LibO to Vietnamese students by completing easy hacks
Hello, I CC'ed Nguyen Hong Quang, the one who has founded MHST. (2011/04/20 14:47), Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: Could you enlighten us about some points about MHST? Perhaps Mr. Quang can do that better than me :) Is it working exactly like GSoc (1 student, 1 project, one potential winner) or is it more like a team project with one project? This would help us see what kind of project(s) is needed for the students. Mentors and students can team up. Last year, most team consists of 3 or 4 students. And the winners are team, not a person in a team. The developers are the mentors and I step back as the one who fill the gaps between the developers and the students. Cool! Are there some vietnamese developers that could help mentoring and start gaining experience on the LO dev? I will try but I can not promise anything. The open source movement in Vietnam is still quite immature; and we find it very hard creating an active Linux users' group. That means, it is even harder find FOSS developers. Sure, but don't go too quickly with the tasks from the GSoc as the students aren't selected yet. I didn't know that :) Anyway, the deadline for picking an idea is 2011/04/30 What we can do: you copy the whole lot of ideas now and you remove the ones selected for GSoc when Google has announced the selected students. This way Vietnamese students can start working on their proposals. +1 We can keep some private communication about the topic you know vietnamese students are about to pick: I could tell you if you would need to redirect the student on another task. Please send me the list off-list. The GSoc ideas page is pretty OK on that point, but not the easy hack page. I'ld prefer keeping things on the GSoc ideas page. And can add more ideas if you have, we have to finish them anyway. -- Nguyen Vu Hung (Nguyyễn Vũ Hưng) LibreOffice, Vietnamese Translation Team. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] Promoting LibO to Vietnamese students by completing easy hacks
Hello Cedric Bosdonnat et al, (2011/04/19 14:20), Cedric Bosdonnat wrote: Hello Vu Hung, On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 07:42 +0700, Nguyen Vu Hung (KiEi) wrote: Mùa hè sáng tạo (MHST 2010)[1] works much like (Google) Summer of Code held among Vietnamese and for Vietnamese students. The reason we have our own version of Gsoc in Vietnam is that students' English skill is not so good. I love this kind of ideas! but we need to checkout how to get that project started. Because I am working with MHST for the second year as a mentor/admin so I'd say joining it is too easy (and much looser than Gsoc) As for the regulation of MHST, I propose that I will firstly register LibO team as a mentor; and I will take care of the Vietnam side. Some important deadlines: 2011/04/30: Deadline for mentor's (and his/her ideas) registration. 2011/05/01 - 2011/05/29: (team of) students' proposal registration 2011/05/30 - 2011/06/05: Announce the list of selected teams and students 2011/06/06 - 2011/09/04: Coding :) MHST 2011 Information http://www.olp.vn/mhst/thong-tin Prizes http://www.olp.vn/mhst/giai-thuong Registration http://www.olp.vn/mhst/dang-ky List of MHST ideas http://www.olp.vn/mhst/danh-sach-y-tuong Guidelines http://www.olp.vn/mhst/huong-dan As to promote LibO *development* in Vietnam, I would like to ask developers at LibO become a technical co-mentors, and myself will be a co-mentor who bridges the gaps between you and the student(s). No problem for me to co-mentor on the Writer side. I think we would achieve better results if the other - vietnamese - mentor is a developer and not just a translator, but maybe that's what you planned already. Yes, that's what I have planned. The developers are the mentors and I step back as the one who fill the gaps between the developers and the students. I will find some students joining the project. Sure, you need to handle the MHST admin as we can't do it in vietnamese. Don't worry, I've talked to other MHST admins and they have given us a +1. Feel free to ping either Fridrich, thorsten or myself if you have questions as we all were GSoc admins at a point of time. Regarding the topics, is that OK if we pick some easy hacks[2][3] on Gsoc idea page? Sure, but don't go too quickly with the tasks from the GSoc as the students aren't selected yet. I didn't know that :) Anyway, the deadline for picking an idea is 2011/04/30 It's better to tell the students to be careful that some of those projects may already have been picked. WRT the EasyHacks, tasks are sorted by difficulty and students should pick tasks in section 6 - Programming tasks. I see. Probably you have to fill some more programming tasks. My concern is, can we allocate the right developer as the mentor for a programming task? Please feel free to ask if you have any questions. Please get back to me. Done :D I wish we could launch a successful project with students in vietnam thanks to you. My pleasure Nguyen Vu Hung ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
