Re: Bug 46114 - Java Access Bridge no longer works

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Meeks

On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 18:25 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote:
 Seems I'd screwed up the JAB 2.0.2 installation, so unlikely to be be able
 to recreate the original crash for stack dump. There are some issues with
 structure of the jfw::isAccessibilitySupportDesired() calls but otherwise
 won't do anything further with this effort.

Phew :-) of course, it'd still be nice not to crash in this situation,
and instead warn the user - indeed we should never crash; however -
since we'll kill all that code in favour of IAcc2, hopefully in the
release after 3.6 - things should get better  perhaps we can ignore it.

Thanks for reporting anyhow ! early reports of serious bugs are much
appreciated.

All the best,

Michael.

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Re: Bug 46114 - Java Access Bridge no longer works

2012-06-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Apologies for a misread on my part.

Seems I'd screwed up the JAB 2.0.2 installation, so unlikely to be be able
to recreate the original crash for stack dump. There are some issues with
structure of the jfw::isAccessibilitySupportDesired() calls but otherwise
won't do anything further with this effort.

More comments in the 46114 bug report because there is some weirdness with
the jfw::isAccessibilitySupportDesired() configuration support in the Java
Framework.

Stuart


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Re: Bug 46114 - Java Access Bridge no longer works

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 12:38 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote:
 So understand the effort to reduce the Java UNO dependencies and desire to
 move to more robust solutions. But it would appear that current releases of
 Oracle's Java Access Bridge is no longer functioning, so the Accessibility
 Support assistive technology tools... check box causes  LibreOffice 3.5.x
 Windows builds to crash.

That is not good; marked it a most annoying bug. It'd be wonderful to
have a stack-trace from a windows build, but of course - these are not
so easy to create.

 Either need to press on  with the IBM contributed IAcessible2 integration (
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39956 ) to fully eliminate JAB,

Sure; unfortunately (as yet) the Symphony code-dump is not in a state
where that can be easily extracted for 3.6.

 or roll back and revisit what we've done to ourselves and what Oracle has
 done with the package that is making it incompatible.  

Sure; that's certainly worth doing. It sounds like it started to fail
in the 3.4 to 3.5 transition - a shame that we only discovered it now.

 Eitherway there is a large class of  disabled LO users  on Windows that have
 been left hanging--and not just users dependent on screen readers like NVDA.

Yep; it needs fixing. Of course - getting a good stack-trace from a
real live system with NVDA installed, where we can reproduce this is the
first step. I'm struggling with VirtualBox's persistent mangling of it's
own configuration personally so ...

Hmm,

Michael.

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Re: Bug 46114 - Java Access Bridge no longer works

2012-05-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
Happy to cobble together a couple of clean Win7sp1 systems (32bit, 64bit)
with JRE 1.7.4, Java Access Bridge 2.0.2, NVDA 2012.1 and LibreOffice
3.5.4rc2  to capture the faults.
 
But for posting stack- trace what would folks prefer (be able to use)  to
efficiently pin down the issue under Windows, JRE or the JAB?
 
A Windows Sysinternals Process Monitor log during crash would be my starting
point.
 
But I could load MinGW  for gcc/gdb, or Visual Studio 2008 (or 2005) and
appropriate debug symbols if someone points me to them and lets me know what
they need captured and of any configuration weirdness.
 
Also, could load Dr. Memory and work with one of the
/win32-debug/libreoffice-3-5 installer packages if that is preferred,
although the 3.5.4rc1 dev version is not yet posted.
 
Stuart


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Re: Bug 46114 - Java Access Bridge no longer works

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Meeks

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 07:53 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote:
 Happy to cobble together a couple of clean Win7sp1 systems (32bit, 64bit)
 with JRE 1.7.4, Java Access Bridge 2.0.2, NVDA 2012.1 and LibreOffice
 3.5.4rc2  to capture the faults.

 But for posting stack- trace what would folks prefer (be able to use)  to
 efficiently pin down the issue under Windows, JRE or the JAB?

I suspect you'd do best with a windows master snapshot built with debug
symbols .pdb files; unfortunately I've not had much luck here, either
with Jesus' builds or the new tinderbox debug builds - the .pdb files
mismatch the binaries or are not there.

 Also, could load Dr. Memory and work with one of the
 /win32-debug/libreoffice-3-5 installer packages if that is preferred,
 although the 3.5.4rc1 dev version is not yet posted.

Yep - problem is, we barely startup under DrMemory :-) there are some
rather odd things going on there I think - then again, perhaps some of
those have been fixed in the most recent versions, so you might have
more luck. My DrMemory crashed pretty fast running LibreOffice though -
we do some unusual things for an application ;-)

The best trace would prolly come from windbg for a build with symbols I
guess.

Thanks,

Michael.

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