Re: Unclear string to translate in inspectorproperties.hrc
Thank you, Mike & Shivam, for explanation. We should probably translate the strings in a similar cryptic way. The inspector pane is not displayed (I have the most recent build), so I'll wait for a fix. thanks Milos On 8/12/20 12:04 PM, Mike Kaganski wrote: > Hi, > > On 12.08.2020 12:52, Milos Sramek wrote: >> we got for translation 200+ new strings, which are located in file >> inspectorproperties.hrc and seem to be related to the Style Inspector >> sidebar deck. >> >> These strings are not full sentences and seem to have a certain logic >> structure, for example >> >> Fill Bitmap Rectangle Point >> Char Interoperability Grab Bag >> Char Weight Complex >> >> So, we do not know, how to translate them. Should they be translated at all? >> > Basically answered in i10n mailing list; citing here: > > >> Some background. >> >> These strings are related to the Styles Inspector - a GSoC project, >> being implemented by Shivam Kumar Singh >> (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134554). The >> inspector is already available in Experimental mode (see comment 2 in >> the meta issue). >> >> The Inspector presents a detailed low-level view of properties applied >> at the cursor. As such, it shows the multitude of attributes applied to >> text (or other object in the future); most these attributes have their >> names in multiple dialogs throughout the UI, but this is the first time >> when all of them need to be named in a single place. And translation in >> dialogs can not be used directly, e.g. because the translation there in >> dialogs may use context absent in the Inspector. >> >> One possible improvement could be to provide a hint somehow near the IDs >> in inspectorproperties.hrc, where known/possible, to the related strings >> in the dialogs/other UI parts, to help translators understand what this >> item is about. But that's a separate task/TODO: the current work on >> Inspector does not consider dialogs; the Inspector is created based on >> the properties available using UNO API, and thus Shivam does not know >> where the items are located in existing UI. (This is to clarify that >> there's no information already used by developers, potentially useful to >> translation, that was somehow lost during development.) >> >> The names that Shivam has put there are possibly somewhat "cryptic" >> exactly because of the mentioned specifics: the names are mostly the API >> names, which were split by CamelCase to produce strings like "Char >> Weight Complex", intended to be used in context of table like >> >> Char Interoperability Grab Bag"some string" >> >> Char Weight Complex10 >> >> So the mentioned TODO would also allow to gradually find the existing >> names of the attributes, and make them consistent in the Inspector. > > > Milos Sramek wrote: >> Currently, I can see only two items in Style Inspector sidebar deck in >> Writer >> Font name >> Font size >> >> In the file inspectorproperties.hrc there is >> "Char Font Name" >> but no >> "Char Font Size" >> >> Are the strings, which i can see in the Inspector, derived somehow from >> the strings in inspectorproperties.hrc? >> > You obviously look somewhere else. The Inspector looks like this: > https://imgur.com/xu2Wvh2 > You might need to move cursor/type something for the initially empty > deck to initialize (a bug). > > Note that there are exactly "Char Font Name" and "Char Font Height", but > no "Font name" or "Font size" currently. > > > ___ > LibreOffice mailing list > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- Milos Sramek, msrame...@gmail.com ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Unclear string to translate in inspectorproperties.hrc
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 15:22, Milos Sramek wrote: > Hi, > Currently, I can see only two items in Style Inspector sidebar deck in > Writer > Font name > Font size > Are you sure your local codebase is updated ? > In the file inspectorproperties.hrc there is > "Char Font Name" > but no > "Char Font Size" > You can find "Char Font Name" and "Char Height" in inspectorproperties.hrc . > Are the strings, which i can see in the Inspector, derived somehow from > the strings in inspectorproperties.hrc? > > Thanks > Milos > > > On 8/4/20 7:59 AM, Shivam Kumar Singh wrote: > > Hi, > > Work Done this week :- > * tdf#135178 tdf#135179 tdf#134820 SetChgLink was not correctly called and > used which led to crash on moving the cursor to different images or charts. > This issue was fixed, MERGED > * tdf#134831 The SI would expand only to 2/3rd of the sidebar though its > expected to expand to the whole length. This change was fixed and merged. > * tdf#134560 tdf#135107 Previously the API names for the properties were > shown in the SI, which was not very easy to understand. These properties > are now human-readable and translatable wrt UI language. MERGED > > To Do for this week :- > * Add color boxes to "Color" properties tdf#134561 > * Some ui issues still exist relating to the scroll bars. This should be > fixed within this week tdf#135344 > * Add a way to also display properties which are stored in structs in the > UNO API tdf#135406 > > All the bugs are being listed at META tdf#134554, It would be great help > if more number of people use the SI and report any bugs experienced or > confirm the already listed unconfirmed ones. > > Thank you Mike, Heiko and Tomaz for their continuous guidance :) > > sincerely, > Shivam Kumar Singh > > ___ > LibreOffice mailing > listLibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.orghttps://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice > > > -- > Milos Sramek, msrame...@gmail.com > > ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Unclear string to translate in inspectorproperties.hrc
Hi, On 12.08.2020 12:52, Milos Sramek wrote: > we got for translation 200+ new strings, which are located in file > inspectorproperties.hrc and seem to be related to the Style Inspector > sidebar deck. > > These strings are not full sentences and seem to have a certain logic > structure, for example > > Fill Bitmap Rectangle Point > Char Interoperability Grab Bag > Char Weight Complex > > So, we do not know, how to translate them. Should they be translated at all? > Basically answered in i10n mailing list; citing here: > Some background. > > These strings are related to the Styles Inspector - a GSoC project, > being implemented by Shivam Kumar Singh > (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134554). The > inspector is already available in Experimental mode (see comment 2 in > the meta issue). > > The Inspector presents a detailed low-level view of properties applied > at the cursor. As such, it shows the multitude of attributes applied to > text (or other object in the future); most these attributes have their > names in multiple dialogs throughout the UI, but this is the first time > when all of them need to be named in a single place. And translation in > dialogs can not be used directly, e.g. because the translation there in > dialogs may use context absent in the Inspector. > > One possible improvement could be to provide a hint somehow near the IDs > in inspectorproperties.hrc, where known/possible, to the related strings > in the dialogs/other UI parts, to help translators understand what this > item is about. But that's a separate task/TODO: the current work on > Inspector does not consider dialogs; the Inspector is created based on > the properties available using UNO API, and thus Shivam does not know > where the items are located in existing UI. (This is to clarify that > there's no information already used by developers, potentially useful to > translation, that was somehow lost during development.) > > The names that Shivam has put there are possibly somewhat "cryptic" > exactly because of the mentioned specifics: the names are mostly the API > names, which were split by CamelCase to produce strings like "Char > Weight Complex", intended to be used in context of table like > > Char Interoperability Grab Bag"some string" > > Char Weight Complex10 > > So the mentioned TODO would also allow to gradually find the existing > names of the attributes, and make them consistent in the Inspector. Milos Sramek wrote: > Currently, I can see only two items in Style Inspector sidebar deck in > Writer > Font name > Font size > > In the file inspectorproperties.hrc there is > "Char Font Name" > but no > "Char Font Size" > > Are the strings, which i can see in the Inspector, derived somehow from > the strings in inspectorproperties.hrc? > You obviously look somewhere else. The Inspector looks like this: https://imgur.com/xu2Wvh2 You might need to move cursor/type something for the initially empty deck to initialize (a bug). Note that there are exactly "Char Font Name" and "Char Font Height", but no "Font name" or "Font size" currently. -- Best regards, Mike Kaganski pEpkey.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
