Re: [PUSHED] Re: Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-14 Thread Michael Meeks

On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 18:21 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
   Could you update the features page with this info

 I updated this page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0 with:
 Dropped support for legacy Word and Excel (version 6.0/95) files.
 These files can still be opened, but they will save in your default
 format (usually .odt/.ods).

I've clarified - since people really -love- to not read carefully and
get twisted up about file-formats. I've clarified that we're retaining
Office 97+ binary file formats and that this is export only ;-)

  Wow - that's bold :-)
 Glad it got approved as is.  4.0 is a good time to do things like this :)

Agreed - thanks for picking that up.

 It's generally easier to pick what you want on a shorter list as well.

A good improvement,

Thanks !

Michael.

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Re: Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Bryan,

On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 18:05 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
 This patch removes the ability to save to old office 6/95 formats.
 I've also opened a bug on it here:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53471

Wow - that's bold :-) indeed there are loads of problems with fidelity
in the old formats, and of course maintenance pain  testing uncertainty
around them. Disabling them by default in the UI (with some setting to
have them back on ?) might be better at least for a release - and lets
see if anyone screams (?).

I assume the root problem you want to fix is of users accidentally
picking the wrong format in the filter / drop-down and getting a
needlessly bad experience here ?

Added to the ESC agenda for today anyhow ;-)

 It's a very trivial patch but:
 This contribution to LibreOffice may be licensed under the MPL/LGPLv3+
 dual license.  This patch was also written before I joined Canonical. 

Great to have your contribution !

All the best,

Michael.

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Re: Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-13 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 10:05 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
   I assume the root problem you want to fix is of users accidentally
 picking the wrong format in the filter / drop-down and getting a
 needlessly bad experience here ?

I seem to recall a bug (maybe fixed ?) where in the kde file dialog
typing foo.doc as the save name would auto pick the word 6 format
instead of the word 8 format.

C.

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Re: Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-13 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Thursday 13 of December 2012, Caolán McNamara wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 10:05 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
  I assume the root problem you want to fix is of users accidentally
  picking the wrong format in the filter / drop-down and getting a
  needlessly bad experience here ?

 I seem to recall a bug (maybe fixed ?) where in the kde file dialog
 typing foo.doc as the save name would auto pick the word 6 format
 instead of the word 8 format.

 Definitely fixed.

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[PUSHED] Re: Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-13 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 18:05 -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 This patch removes the ability to save to old office 6/95 formats.
 I've also opened a bug on it here:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53471
 
 It's a very trivial patch but:
 This contribution to LibreOffice may be licensed under the MPL/LGPLv3+
 dual license.  This patch was also written before I joined Canonical. 

Was discussed in ESC call, so pushed to master and 4.0 now. Could you
update the features page with this info, there should be some existing
entry about the binfilter removal.

C.

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Re: [PUSHED] Re: Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-13 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hi all,

 Was discussed in ESC call, so pushed to master and 4.0 now.
Thanks!

  Could you update the features page with this info
I updated this page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0 with:
Dropped support for legacy Word and Excel (version 6.0/95) files.
These files can still be opened, but they will save in your default
format (usually .odt/.ods).

 Wow - that's bold :-)
Glad it got approved as is.  4.0 is a good time to do things like this :)


 I assume the root problem you want to fix is of users accidentally
 picking the wrong format in the filter / drop-down and getting a
 needlessly bad experience here ?
Correct.  They may have been told things like, make sure to use the
old version of .doc.

It's generally easier to pick what you want on a shorter list as well.

Thanks again,
Bryan
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Remove save to old Microsoft office formats

2012-12-12 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hi all,

This patch removes the ability to save to old office 6/95 formats.   I've
also opened a bug on it here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53471

It's a very trivial patch but:
This contribution to LibreOffice may be licensed under the MPL/LGPLv3+ dual
license.  This patch was also written before I joined Canonical.

Thanks,
Bryan Quigley


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