Re: System::Beep() removal (2nd)

2013-03-14 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 01:31 +0100, Thomas Arnhold wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 some time ago we removed all ancient beeps in the source (fdo#48549).

Which was a good thing for the general case IMO.

 It seems this was kind of too forward, because users want a beep as 
 acoustic feedback for Basic macros (fdo#58807).
 
 I want to get some opinions about bringing the vcl/sound related stuff 
 back so we get beeps working for Basic again. Or are there 
 alternatives?!

Can't think of an alternative except cheezy visual-bell things like
flashing the screen or printing the word beep on stdout :-)

Maybe we should indeed restore just the bare beep for the sole purpose
of the macro case.

C.

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Re: System::Beep() removal (2nd)

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Meeks

On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 01:31 +0100, Thomas Arnhold wrote:
 I want to get some opinions about bringing the vcl/sound related stuff 
 back so we get beeps working for Basic again. Or are there 
 alternatives?!

System beeps essentially don't work (at least on Linux) and on terminal
servers particularly.

I wonder if we could instead play a sound with the avmedia backend - of
course, it'd be synchronous and lamer - but then, people using 'Beep'
deserve everything they get I guess ;-)

At least, that'd be my recommendation.

Thanks,

Michael.

-- 
michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

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Re: System::Beep() removal (2nd)

2013-03-14 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 16:18 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
   System beeps essentially don't work (at least on Linux) and on terminal
 servers particularly.
 
   I wonder if we could instead play a sound with the avmedia backend - of
 course, it'd be synchronous and lamer - but then, people using 'Beep'
 deserve everything they get I guess ;-)

For the Linux case I still reckon Application::Beep - XBell has the
highest chance of getting a Beep to happen where the user is sitting
than any fancy pants solution :-) And its probably easier to resurrect
that code.

C.

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System::Beep() removal (2nd)

2013-02-25 Thread Thomas Arnhold

Hi folks,

some time ago we removed all ancient beeps in the source (fdo#48549).

It seems this was kind of too forward, because users want a beep as 
acoustic feedback for Basic macros (fdo#58807).


I want to get some opinions about bringing the vcl/sound related stuff 
back so we get beeps working for Basic again. Or are there 
alternatives?!


cons: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2012-February/000890.html


Regards
 Thomas
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