Re: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8)
Hi *, On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:55 AM julien2412 wrote: > > What about asking Windows 8 or rather Windows 10 as prerequisite for future > LO 7.2.0 Windows version? We typically don't bump version requirements "just because". Last time we bumped the windows baseline was because one of the external libraries (icu) required newer versions of windows... (that being said nobody was eager at the time to keep XP supported, so kinda went hand-in-hand). Also keep in mind that there are more than desktop editions of Windows, and dropping Windows 8 is out of question, as the build-machines currently are Windows Server 2012 R2. So when that hits EOL end of 2023, at least the build-baseline will change to a Windows 10 based one, and until then we might bump the runtime baseline because of technical reasons – but as long as there is something we cannot have because we need to support older versions of Windows, there's no reason to bump the runtime requirement. > (benefit: not wasting time on an obsolete system if not in dev part in QA > part for example) There's a difference in making something a prerequisite and not providing active support. We surely can declare it "best effort" basis or otherwise label it as not actively tested. But that again is quite different from a prerequisite/bump of baseline. (and as you write yourself: extended support still is offered til 2023, so a little bit early to write it off as an unsupported OS, at least for 7.2) ciao Christian ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8)
... so what i understand you're saying is that it would reflect badly on us if we cater to users that operate their computers outside of vendor support. thanks for your input. On 03.01.21 13:02, Marc Roos wrote: Without knowing to much about the differences between developing for windows7 and windows10. I would always suggest an approach where you do not enforce anything that is outside of your core business as an office application suite. Eg. as in what OS someone is using. -Original Message- To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8) On 3.1.2021 11.55, julien2412 wrote: Taking a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7, Windows 7 (released in 2009) is now only "eligible for the Extended Security Updates service. This service is available via OEMs, in yearly installments. Security updates are available for the operating system until at most January 10, 2023 only for Professional and Enterprise volume licensed editions" What about asking Windows 8 or rather Windows 10 as prerequisite for future LO 7.2.0 Windows version? (benefit: not wasting time on an obsolete system if not in dev part in QA part for example) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8)
Hello, Taking a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7, Windows 7 (released in 2009) is now only "eligible for the Extended Security Updates service. This service is available via OEMs, in yearly installments. Security updates are available for the operating system until at most January 10, 2023 only for Professional and Enterprise volume licensed editions" What about asking Windows 8 or rather Windows 10 as prerequisite for future LO 7.2.0 Windows version? (benefit: not wasting time on an obsolete system if not in dev part in QA part for example) Julien -- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Dev-f1639786.html ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8)
Without knowing to much about the differences between developing for windows7 and windows10. I would always suggest an approach where you do not enforce anything that is outside of your core business as an office application suite. Eg. as in what OS someone is using. -Original Message- To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8) On 3.1.2021 11.55, julien2412 wrote: > Taking a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7, Windows 7 > (released in 2009) is now only "eligible for the Extended Security > Updates service. This service is available via OEMs, in yearly installments. > Security updates are available for the operating system until at most > January 10, 2023 only for Professional and Enterprise volume licensed > editions" > > What about asking Windows 8 or rather Windows 10 as prerequisite for > future LO 7.2.0 Windows version? > > (benefit: not wasting time on an obsolete system if not in dev part in > QA part for example) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8)
On 3.1.2021 11.55, julien2412 wrote: Taking a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7, Windows 7 (released in 2009) is now only "eligible for the Extended Security Updates service. This service is available via OEMs, in yearly installments. Security updates are available for the operating system until at most January 10, 2023 only for Professional and Enterprise volume licensed editions" What about asking Windows 8 or rather Windows 10 as prerequisite for future LO 7.2.0 Windows version? (benefit: not wasting time on an obsolete system if not in dev part in QA part for example) Sadly I don't see it as realistic. Look at the market share between Win versions: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/ Let's revisit the topic in January 2023. If the downward trend continues at the same rate, Win 7 might have a small enough market share by then to justify dropping support. Ilmari ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
