Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2019-02-07 - disable popups
* Pending Action Items: + disable popups for release-build only in 6.2/.3 (Justin L) [ sent some code pointers ] Since I'm not a release engineer, I don't have a way to test the changes that I was asked to make. So I've instead created bug 123270 which a qualified individual can take. Justin ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2019-02-07
* Present: + Caolán, Eike, Kendy, Miklos, Cloph, Xisco, Sberg, Olivier, Michael W, Heiko, Thorsten, Michael S * Completed Action Items: + mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Cloph) → now with the board * Pending Action Items: + disable popups for release-build only in 6.2/.3 (Justin L) [ sent some code pointers ] + send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy) + work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Cloph) [ didn’t connect with him yet ] + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Cloph) [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just ja it fails – needs further research ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 6.1.5 & 6.2.0 announced earlier today! + 6.2.1 rc1: this week rc2: Feb 19 + 6.1.6 rc1: April 9 + 6.3 release schedule updated in the wiki + Remotes – no updates thus far + Android viewer + new builds planned for the stores this week. + Online * Documentation (Olivier) + FOSDEM + Some Help pages on python usage with LO (LibreOfficiant) + Typos in Help pages (fitoshido) * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 265(265) (needsUXEval) + Updates: BZ changes 1 week1 month 3 months 12 months added 5(-3) 11(-1)43(-6) 94(-3) commented 51(-20) 181(23) 421(-16) 1439(-12) removed 0(-1) 2(0) 11(0) 15(0) resolved 8(0) 28(5) 41(3) 122(3) + top 10 contributors: Tietze, Heiko made 86 changes in 1 month, and 564 changes in 1 year kompilainenn made 43 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year Xisco Faulí made 35 changes in 1 month, and 283 changes in 1 year Kainz, Andreas made 29 changes in 1 month, and 170 changes in 1 year Foote, V Stuart made 28 changes in 1 month, and 219 changes in 1 year Cor Nouws made 20 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year BogdanB made 18 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year Aditya Sahu made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 15 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year Buovjaga made 15 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year New needsUXEval between Jan/24-Feb/06 * Move above checkboxes in Autofilter window + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 * Corrupt PDF output when exporting from LibreOffice Math + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123117 * Image WrapOff default setting + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123169 * notebookbar additional settings for label arrangement + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123171 => NEW/in discussion * Shortcuts for shapes in Draw/Impress + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122928 * Confusing behavior with Direct Formatting with copy/paste + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90568 => NAB/WF * UI - Insert mode status activation and display + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107918 + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/01/31/overwrite-on- macos/ + show Insert on macOS at the statusbar * Image -> Add Caption -> No description => Can't change caption instantly afterwards + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122950 * EDITING: No INSERT ROWS ... (dialog box that allows adding a set number of rows) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80390 => easyhack, needsdeveval * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 1 (-2) import failures, 4(-18) export failures + all look like new redline related issues + ?? was 8(+0) coverity issues + coverity was not working with C++17 + https://community.synopsys.com/s/article/Coverity-Scan-Update actually now coverity is completely down for everybody with no ETA for restoration, so lets wait until it comes back up to see what version it will use if it comes back + read-only access restored, not possible to submit new builds yet + 4 (-8) Google / ossfuzz: 4 timeouts. + 0 serious + looking good. + ?? ForcePoint, round 9 + two asserts/crashes on using crashtester over round 9 + CVE issues in progress for Jan 2019 + CVE-2018-16858 is announced as fixed in 6.0.7 and 6.1.3 + CNA process fun + responded to mitre, awaiting reply * Crash Reporting (Xisco) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.3.2 + 1399 (last 7 days) (-342) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.4.2 + 2054 (last 7 days) (+144) +
Minutes of the ESC call 2019-02-07
* Present: + Caolán, Eike, Kendy, Miklos, Cloph, Xisco, Sberg, Olivier, Michael W, Heiko, Thorsten, Michael S * Completed Action Items: + mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Cloph) → now with the board * Pending Action Items: + disable popups for release-build only in 6.2/.3 (Justin L) [ sent some code pointers ] + send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy) + work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Cloph) [ didn’t connect with him yet ] + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Cloph) [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just ja it fails – needs further research ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 6.1.5 & 6.2.0 announced earlier today! + 6.2.1 rc1: this week rc2: Feb 19 + 6.1.6 rc1: April 9 + 6.3 release schedule updated in the wiki + Remotes – no updates thus far + Android viewer + new builds planned for the stores this week. + Online * Documentation (Olivier) + FOSDEM + Some Help pages on python usage with LO (LibreOfficiant) + Typos in Help pages (fitoshido) * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 265(265) (needsUXEval) + Updates: BZ changes 1 week1 month 3 months 12 months added 5(-3) 11(-1)43(-6) 94(-3) commented 51(-20) 181(23) 421(-16) 1439(-12) removed 0(-1) 2(0) 11(0) 15(0) resolved 8(0) 28(5) 41(3) 122(3) + top 10 contributors: Tietze, Heiko made 86 changes in 1 month, and 564 changes in 1 year kompilainenn made 43 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year Xisco Faulí made 35 changes in 1 month, and 283 changes in 1 year Kainz, Andreas made 29 changes in 1 month, and 170 changes in 1 year Foote, V Stuart made 28 changes in 1 month, and 219 changes in 1 year Cor Nouws made 20 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year BogdanB made 18 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year Aditya Sahu made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 15 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year Buovjaga made 15 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year New needsUXEval between Jan/24-Feb/06 * Move above checkboxes in Autofilter window + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 * Corrupt PDF output when exporting from LibreOffice Math + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123117 * Image WrapOff default setting + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123169 * notebookbar additional settings for label arrangement + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123171 => NEW/in discussion * Shortcuts for shapes in Draw/Impress + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122928 * Confusing behavior with Direct Formatting with copy/paste + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90568 => NAB/WF * UI - Insert mode status activation and display + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107918 + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/01/31/overwrite-on- macos/ + show Insert on macOS at the statusbar * Image -> Add Caption -> No description => Can't change caption instantly afterwards + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122950 * EDITING: No INSERT ROWS ... (dialog box that allows adding a set number of rows) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80390 => easyhack, needsdeveval * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 1 (-2) import failures, 4(-18) export failures + all look like new redline related issues + ?? was 8(+0) coverity issues + coverity was not working with C++17 + https://community.synopsys.com/s/article/Coverity-Scan-Update actually now coverity is completely down for everybody with no ETA for restoration, so lets wait until it comes back up to see what version it will use if it comes back + read-only access restored, not possible to submit new builds yet + 4 (-8) Google / ossfuzz: 4 timeouts. + 0 serious + looking good. + ?? ForcePoint, round 9 + two asserts/crashes on using crashtester over round 9 + CVE issues in progress for Jan 2019 + CVE-2018-16858 is announced as fixed in 6.0.7 and 6.1.3 + CNA process fun + responded to mitre, awaiting reply * Crash Reporting (Xisco) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.3.2 + 1399 (last 7 days) (-342) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.4.2 + 2054 (last 7 days) (+144) +
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2019-01-10
* Present: + Sophie, Olivier, Michael W, Michael M, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan Michael S, Caolan, Thorsten, Christian, Heiko, Justin, Eike * Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: + send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy) + work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Christian) [ didn’t connect with him yet ] + mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Christian) + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian) [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just ja it fails – needs further research ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 6.1.5 RC1 – tagged next week ... + 6.2 RC 2 – due week 3 ? – Jan 17th + tagged Tuesday evening – builds on the mirror network now + libreoffice-6-2-0 branch created + still require 1 review for libreoffice-6-2 + and another 2 reviews for libreoffice-6-2-0 + Late Features + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Michael S) + looking pretty solid; all in. + so far – just 1 bug from the Word file-format; forgot to adapt the filter → fix for RC3 if +1 review. + will take a look at the patch (Miklos) → considers it done (Thorsten) + Notebookbar → any update wrt. leaving enabled (Heiko) + decided to enable – and see if there are complaints. + not so many so far; some issues with l10n + German & other langs longer than English l10n + makes things bigger potentially in one variant. + relevant for all variants with strings when you turn it on + compact variants don’t have this issue. => ship with it and see what happens. + marketing is happy with promoting it. + not a problem for now, but think it through in future (Sophie) + could introduce a shorter label in the commands (Heiko) + but a terrible solution + or comment to l10n that name should be short (Sophie) + Updated Elementary icons (Heiko) + directional issues fixed even for 6.2 (a bug) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115986 + Remotes + Android viewer + will provide a new version to the app store but no up-loaded yet. + Online * Project / Donate popups in stable (Justin Luth) + unhappy with annoying popups for get-involved & donate for several reasons + open-source desparation / EOL signifier ? + eg. Wikipedia – EOL ? (Heiko) + security things: ignore adverts in E-mail / popups etc. + if LibreOffice starts up – get an advert … + don’t follow it – didn’t start it to investigate it + do own searching with google instead. + different classes of people: who would want to see it ? + no user would ask for this. + would like to see it die. + made me question / want to quit. + point quite clear in Bugzilla – can disable toolbars fine. + also against infobars from a user-perspective (Heiko) + decided in TDF team - rely on donations + need to draw more attention. + download from an app-store, who never see our download page. + where we encourage people to donate. + project relies heavily on this; a good balance + 1 click to dismiss in exchange. + fully agree it is annoying. + correlation between download updater & donations in the past (Michael) + potential compromises + leave it in for fresh, not stable. + one problem – not targetted at all + in the debug version → “please get involved” is annoying. + concern. wrt. Amateurish. + the fresh people you want to target more anyway. + am a sysadmin for 30 machines + end-users are prolly more of a drain wrt get-involved. + created the extension – but had to create it; took 3 hrs. + despite being the guy who wrote the wiki page on this. + lots of work on a small scale. + patches all go into 6.2 (Heiko) + get-involved is in 6.1.x + agree it is annoying (Thorsten) + there is a problem, TDF can only go so far without a stable donation stream + not wedded to the current solution. + perhaps not the best venue to discuss → community / UX’y + slightly afraid of blessing stable too much + easire decision – not a permanent idea for stable (Miklos) + but just 6.1 – and come up with a better proposal. AI: + propose remove it from 6.3 and 6.1-stable (Justin) + could make it an --enable-release-build thing for 6.3 (Miklos) AI: => disable for 6.1 for now & release-build-ize it for 6.2 & 6.3 + and continue discussing elsewhere. *
Minutes of the ESC call 2019-01-10
* Present: + Sophie, Olivier, Michael W, Michael M, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan Michael S, Caolan, Thorsten, Christian, Heiko, Justin, Eike * Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: + send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy) + work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Christian) [ didn’t connect with him yet ] + mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Christian) + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian) [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just ja it fails – needs further research ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 6.1.5 RC1 – tagged next week ... + 6.2 RC 2 – due week 3 ? – Jan 17th + tagged Tuesday evening – builds on the mirror network now + libreoffice-6-2-0 branch created + still require 1 review for libreoffice-6-2 + and another 2 reviews for libreoffice-6-2-0 + Late Features + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Michael S) + looking pretty solid; all in. + so far – just 1 bug from the Word file-format; forgot to adapt the filter → fix for RC3 if +1 review. + will take a look at the patch (Miklos) → considers it done (Thorsten) + Notebookbar → any update wrt. leaving enabled (Heiko) + decided to enable – and see if there are complaints. + not so many so far; some issues with l10n + German & other langs longer than English l10n + makes things bigger potentially in one variant. + relevant for all variants with strings when you turn it on + compact variants don’t have this issue. => ship with it and see what happens. + marketing is happy with promoting it. + not a problem for now, but think it through in future (Sophie) + could introduce a shorter label in the commands (Heiko) + but a terrible solution + or comment to l10n that name should be short (Sophie) + Updated Elementary icons (Heiko) + directional issues fixed even for 6.2 (a bug) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115986 + Remotes + Android viewer + will provide a new version to the app store but no up-loaded yet. + Online * Project / Donate popups in stable (Justin Luth) + unhappy with annoying popups for get-involved & donate for several reasons + open-source desparation / EOL signifier ? + eg. Wikipedia – EOL ? (Heiko) + security things: ignore adverts in E-mail / popups etc. + if LibreOffice starts up – get an advert … + don’t follow it – didn’t start it to investigate it + do own searching with google instead. + different classes of people: who would want to see it ? + no user would ask for this. + would like to see it die. + made me question / want to quit. + point quite clear in Bugzilla – can disable toolbars fine. + also against infobars from a user-perspective (Heiko) + decided in TDF team - rely on donations + need to draw more attention. + download from an app-store, who never see our download page. + where we encourage people to donate. + project relies heavily on this; a good balance + 1 click to dismiss in exchange. + fully agree it is annoying. + correlation between download updater & donations in the past (Michael) + potential compromises + leave it in for fresh, not stable. + one problem – not targetted at all + in the debug version → “please get involved” is annoying. + concern. wrt. Amateurish. + the fresh people you want to target more anyway. + am a sysadmin for 30 machines + end-users are prolly more of a drain wrt get-involved. + created the extension – but had to create it; took 3 hrs. + despite being the guy who wrote the wiki page on this. + lots of work on a small scale. + patches all go into 6.2 (Heiko) + get-involved is in 6.1.x + agree it is annoying (Thorsten) + there is a problem, TDF can only go so far without a stable donation stream + not wedded to the current solution. + perhaps not the best venue to discuss → community / UX’y + slightly afraid of blessing stable too much + easire decision – not a permanent idea for stable (Miklos) + but just 6.1 – and come up with a better proposal. AI: + propose remove it from 6.3 and 6.1-stable (Justin) + could make it an --enable-release-build thing for 6.3 (Miklos) AI: => disable for 6.1 for now & release-build-ize it for 6.2 & 6.3 + and continue discussing elsewhere. *
minutes of conference ESC call ...
* Present: + Xisco, Thorsten, Stephan, Miklos, Cloph, Eike, Michael M, Michael S., Olivier, Michael W, Caolan, Kendy + plus other conference attendees. * Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: + default bitergia filter for master + libreoffice-* (Christian) [ enabled for gerrit (default) view enabled, but default git view needs improving with external script ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + as per the public wiki, time-based release plan. + sub-divided by major releases etc. + 6.0.7 RC1 - due next week + final planned 6.0 version + 6.1.2 RC1 (one release cycle) + about to release this. + typically announced Thur - today is Thur ... + 6.1.3 RC1 - Week start Oct 15th + 6.2 Alpha 1 + due in ~2 weeks. + Remotes + no news. + Android viewer + plagued by bug causing crash on K/B input + caused(?) by build environment upgrade + could reproduce it on an older build that worked in the past + discussed removing the editing features from public version + have it only for Alpha/Beta programme users + either download/side-load, or click "want to participate in alpha programme" + Isn't it already an option (Ash) + yes, but may be enabled already, bigger test set + if crashes when you choose to edit + hard to stabilize, without sample docs etc. + can we add meta-data to crash report ? (Miklos) + is editing enabled or not ? + used to be possible to throw an exception + text (Kendy) + can't get that into the crash dump anymore + would need to have a dialog + E-mail instead. + Online * Documentation (Olivier) + finished "Getting Started" book - now published + having a break before next release. + new help (old help -> HTML, shown in browser) + starting new improvements of content & new features + continuing to work on documenting new features with no help. + a great place to contribute (Michael) + developing a help editor to make life easier for newcomers (Olivier) + idea - a way to make authoring Help-XML easier + also easier to validate + have the editor on-line, with link to gerrit submission + new help will be shown in next documentation session. * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 247(247) (topicUI) bugs open, 295(295) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months added 14(9) 27(2) 41(5) 98(6) commented 57(23) 172(2)371(4) 1560(11) removed 0(0) 1(1) 2(1)6(-2) resolved 2(1) 6(-1)29(-2) 138(-3) + top 10 contributors: Kainz, Andreas made 87 changes in 1 month, and 184 changes in 1 year Tietze, Heiko made 78 changes in 1 month, and 573 changes in 1 year Thomas Lendo made 73 changes in 1 month, and 258 changes in 1 year Xisco Faulí made 21 changes in 1 month, and 288 changes in 1 year Cor Nouws made 15 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year Monastirsky, Maxim made 12 changes in 1 month, and 57 changes in 1 year Drew Jensen made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year Buovjaga made 9 changes in 1 month, and 142 changes in 1 year Telesto made 7 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year kompilainenn made 7 changes in 1 month, and 39 changes in 1 year => revert this week unless someone takes an interest in fixing … + Nickson submitted a patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/60787/ “[09:01] Htietze: the commit switches the default caption so if its a new document then use figure as the category but if the document already uses illustration (i.e, pre 6.1) then make illustration the default category” + Fix hopefully forthcoming * Deprecate Mozilla Persona and trust in locally installed only (Heiko) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119868 + thanks to Mohammed we have a patch to update the HTML parser + takes ~ages for each thumbnail + possible to improve things; still a question if we should remove ability to retrieve data from the server + should we do that ? + Mohammed working on making it easier to bundle personas + we plan to ship our own personas / customizations in 6.2 + a great feature + like to bundle personas as extensions + enriching things like 'dark themes' + proposal to deprecate Mozilla's bits + up to Mohammed * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 4 (-516) import failure, 39(+3) export failures + strange
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of conference ESC call ...
* Present: + Xisco, Thorsten, Stephan, Miklos, Cloph, Eike, Michael M, Michael S., Olivier, Michael W, Caolan, Kendy + plus other conference attendees. * Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: + default bitergia filter for master + libreoffice-* (Christian) [ enabled for gerrit (default) view enabled, but default git view needs improving with external script ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + as per the public wiki, time-based release plan. + sub-divided by major releases etc. + 6.0.7 RC1 - due next week + final planned 6.0 version + 6.1.2 RC1 (one release cycle) + about to release this. + typically announced Thur - today is Thur ... + 6.1.3 RC1 - Week start Oct 15th + 6.2 Alpha 1 + due in ~2 weeks. + Remotes + no news. + Android viewer + plagued by bug causing crash on K/B input + caused(?) by build environment upgrade + could reproduce it on an older build that worked in the past + discussed removing the editing features from public version + have it only for Alpha/Beta programme users + either download/side-load, or click "want to participate in alpha programme" + Isn't it already an option (Ash) + yes, but may be enabled already, bigger test set + if crashes when you choose to edit + hard to stabilize, without sample docs etc. + can we add meta-data to crash report ? (Miklos) + is editing enabled or not ? + used to be possible to throw an exception + text (Kendy) + can't get that into the crash dump anymore + would need to have a dialog + E-mail instead. + Online * Documentation (Olivier) + finished "Getting Started" book - now published + having a break before next release. + new help (old help -> HTML, shown in browser) + starting new improvements of content & new features + continuing to work on documenting new features with no help. + a great place to contribute (Michael) + developing a help editor to make life easier for newcomers (Olivier) + idea - a way to make authoring Help-XML easier + also easier to validate + have the editor on-line, with link to gerrit submission + new help will be shown in next documentation session. * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 247(247) (topicUI) bugs open, 295(295) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months added 14(9) 27(2) 41(5) 98(6) commented 57(23) 172(2)371(4) 1560(11) removed 0(0) 1(1) 2(1)6(-2) resolved 2(1) 6(-1)29(-2) 138(-3) + top 10 contributors: Kainz, Andreas made 87 changes in 1 month, and 184 changes in 1 year Tietze, Heiko made 78 changes in 1 month, and 573 changes in 1 year Thomas Lendo made 73 changes in 1 month, and 258 changes in 1 year Xisco Faulí made 21 changes in 1 month, and 288 changes in 1 year Cor Nouws made 15 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year Monastirsky, Maxim made 12 changes in 1 month, and 57 changes in 1 year Drew Jensen made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year Buovjaga made 9 changes in 1 month, and 142 changes in 1 year Telesto made 7 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year kompilainenn made 7 changes in 1 month, and 39 changes in 1 year => revert this week unless someone takes an interest in fixing … + Nickson submitted a patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/60787/ “[09:01] Htietze: the commit switches the default caption so if its a new document then use figure as the category but if the document already uses illustration (i.e, pre 6.1) then make illustration the default category” + Fix hopefully forthcoming * Deprecate Mozilla Persona and trust in locally installed only (Heiko) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119868 + thanks to Mohammed we have a patch to update the HTML parser + takes ~ages for each thumbnail + possible to improve things; still a question if we should remove ability to retrieve data from the server + should we do that ? + Mohammed working on making it easier to bundle personas + we plan to ship our own personas / customizations in 6.2 + a great feature + like to bundle personas as extensions + enriching things like 'dark themes' + proposal to deprecate Mozilla's bits + up to Mohammed * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 4 (-516) import failure, 39(+3) export failures + strange
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call: 2015-06-11
* Present: Bjoern, Caolan, Miklos, Jay, Kendy, Stephan, David, Michael S, Sophie, Christian Robinson * Completed Action Items: + send updated ESC composition - board approval (Michael) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC + review toolbar / menu changes for feature loss (Sophie) [ done, and monitoring the ongoing changes ] + fixup .uno:InsertRows / .uno:InsertColumns action names (PhilJung) + add Philip Jung to committers, and send welcome mail (Norbert) Done * Pending Action Items: + find some developer/sysadmin'y type people to train in CI maintenance (Cloph/Norbert) [ had a chat after the call with Cloph - started this; ongoing ] + move problem writer tests from check - subsequentcheck for sw.all (Michael S) + can we get Win64 tinderbox builds up-loaded ? (Thorsten) [ Cloph can do that - Win64 builds for him now ] + encourage QA guys to test mork / thunderbird bits on Win64 (Robinson) [ encouraged people to build there; still blocking on the availability of the builds ] + link from the developer pages: (Sophie) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges + create GSOC idea wrt. auto-generating screenshots for Documentation (Norbert) [ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas ] + re-arrange the help XML for the menu changes (Jay) [ did not get to the help yet, still completing the menu changes first ] * Release Engineering update (Cloph / Robinson) + 5.0.0 - Beta 2 + Beta 3 done due to a blocker (cursor not repainting) + signed with a new certificate - working timestamping + 4.4.4 RC2 used that too + potential problems with some antiviruses, Cloph notified few vendors + status + every patch integrated + small update of the schedule: the final release will be 1 week later due to Marketing + Late Feature Status (Michael) + LibreOfficeKit / Online tweaks (Kendy) + mostly fixes this week etc. + OpenGL / double-buffer RenderContext (Kendy) + similar - lots of fixes, some other bits for review in gerrit + gtk3+ theming, embedded video, cut/paste (Caolan) + theming done + Win64 + pending more QA work + building problem that Cloph had is sorted out + 4.4.4 RC2 status + built, OS X still uploading + will announce after the call + Android iOS Remote * UX Update (Kendy) + agreed an updated startcenter - mostly color changes + breeze? - default on OS X + the most complete theme we have these days + should it default on other platforms too? (Cloph) + does not look that should happen now (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 * Documentation (?) + Help editing extension - HelpAuthoring.oxt (Kendy) + where to put it? + help.git not ideal - for packaging (Miklos) + dev-tools? or core? (Kendy) + dev-tools, and upload the .oxt somewhere where people can find it (Kendy) + or sdk-examples: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=sdk-examples.git;a=summary (Bjoern) + addition xml files are needed (Sophie) + to find the locations of files in the helpfiles (Sophie) + xml files (maintransform.xml, allfiles.tree) mentions here - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent + help.git * Crashtest update (Caolán) + 40 outstanding the last week, now 11 + 1 import, 10 export + 3 fixes pushed, hopefully the next run will be even better + many of these are corner cases, could trigger something else in other files * GSoC (Thorsten/Cedric/Fridrich) + make sure students are on-track + mid-term is not so far out - June 26th, deadline July 3rd. + that is soon! - eval in 2 weeks + is everything fine? (Cedric) + yes * Hackfests (Bjoern) + 'Virtual Hackfest' idea ? + Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd - 25th + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2015 + draft page; to be filled out + great to see everyone there. + next venues / suggestions + Belgium another candidate ... * ./logerrit testbranch (Bjoern) + testbuild your feature branch before merge + mostly intended as a template: use it as base for your own scripting * l10n Update (Sophie) + migrating, to be finished at the end of the week + pootle downtime expected * Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten) + at the beginning * New Committers * Jenkins update (Norbert) + new / faster Windows CI hardware ? not yet. waiting for hardware from:Thu Jun 4 14:05:11 2015 master linux rel
Minutes of the ESC call: 2015-06-11
* Present: Bjoern, Caolan, Miklos, Jay, Kendy, Stephan, David, Michael S, Sophie, Christian Robinson * Completed Action Items: + send updated ESC composition - board approval (Michael) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC + review toolbar / menu changes for feature loss (Sophie) [ done, and monitoring the ongoing changes ] + fixup .uno:InsertRows / .uno:InsertColumns action names (PhilJung) + add Philip Jung to committers, and send welcome mail (Norbert) Done * Pending Action Items: + find some developer/sysadmin'y type people to train in CI maintenance (Cloph/Norbert) [ had a chat after the call with Cloph - started this; ongoing ] + move problem writer tests from check - subsequentcheck for sw.all (Michael S) + can we get Win64 tinderbox builds up-loaded ? (Thorsten) [ Cloph can do that - Win64 builds for him now ] + encourage QA guys to test mork / thunderbird bits on Win64 (Robinson) [ encouraged people to build there; still blocking on the availability of the builds ] + link from the developer pages: (Sophie) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges + create GSOC idea wrt. auto-generating screenshots for Documentation (Norbert) [ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas ] + re-arrange the help XML for the menu changes (Jay) [ did not get to the help yet, still completing the menu changes first ] * Release Engineering update (Cloph / Robinson) + 5.0.0 - Beta 2 + Beta 3 done due to a blocker (cursor not repainting) + signed with a new certificate - working timestamping + 4.4.4 RC2 used that too + potential problems with some antiviruses, Cloph notified few vendors + status + every patch integrated + small update of the schedule: the final release will be 1 week later due to Marketing + Late Feature Status (Michael) + LibreOfficeKit / Online tweaks (Kendy) + mostly fixes this week etc. + OpenGL / double-buffer RenderContext (Kendy) + similar - lots of fixes, some other bits for review in gerrit + gtk3+ theming, embedded video, cut/paste (Caolan) + theming done + Win64 + pending more QA work + building problem that Cloph had is sorted out + 4.4.4 RC2 status + built, OS X still uploading + will announce after the call + Android iOS Remote * UX Update (Kendy) + agreed an updated startcenter - mostly color changes + breeze? - default on OS X + the most complete theme we have these days + should it default on other platforms too? (Cloph) + does not look that should happen now (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 * Documentation (?) + Help editing extension - HelpAuthoring.oxt (Kendy) + where to put it? + help.git not ideal - for packaging (Miklos) + dev-tools? or core? (Kendy) + dev-tools, and upload the .oxt somewhere where people can find it (Kendy) + or sdk-examples: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=sdk-examples.git;a=summary (Bjoern) + addition xml files are needed (Sophie) + to find the locations of files in the helpfiles (Sophie) + xml files (maintransform.xml, allfiles.tree) mentions here - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent + help.git * Crashtest update (Caolán) + 40 outstanding the last week, now 11 + 1 import, 10 export + 3 fixes pushed, hopefully the next run will be even better + many of these are corner cases, could trigger something else in other files * GSoC (Thorsten/Cedric/Fridrich) + make sure students are on-track + mid-term is not so far out - June 26th, deadline July 3rd. + that is soon! - eval in 2 weeks + is everything fine? (Cedric) + yes * Hackfests (Bjoern) + 'Virtual Hackfest' idea ? + Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd - 25th + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2015 + draft page; to be filled out + great to see everyone there. + next venues / suggestions + Belgium another candidate ... * ./logerrit testbranch (Bjoern) + testbuild your feature branch before merge + mostly intended as a template: use it as base for your own scripting * l10n Update (Sophie) + migrating, to be finished at the end of the week + pootle downtime expected * Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten) + at the beginning * New Committers * Jenkins update (Norbert) + new / faster Windows CI hardware ? not yet. waiting for hardware from:Thu Jun 4 14:05:11 2015 master linux rel
Minutes of the ESC call: 2014-11-20
* Present: + Muthu, cloph, Lionel, David, Stephan, Kohei, Markus, Miklos, Kendy, Caolan, Eike, Robinson, Bjoern, Michael S, Norbert, Jan-Marek * Completed Action Items: + tweak autogen.sh to not add --best-effort (needed for Jenkins) (Michael M) - done * Pending Action Items: + look at regressions associated with a SUSE bugzilla bugfix (Timar) + look at sorting spreadsheet / use-cases etc. (Eike) cf. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=108990 ] ongoing, a mix of real bugs, wrong expectations and misconception about references * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + 4.3.5 RC1 due next week (previously called 4.3.4) + just re-numbered the schedule + have nice chart - Thunderbird/elsewhere mail/HTML copy/paste patch (Muthu) + review appreciated: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/11911/ + done - thank you! + 4.4.0 Beta 1 / Feature Freeze / adjust ? + msm build problem fixed + re-occurence of a problem from March this year + will take one more last minute fix + will branch after the updated translations are in + Kendy would still like to push one thing there + ~1 hour needed + Moggi has a patch he'd like to get in too + but will take more than ~hour + late feature then + Recent Features ( fun ? ) + expat - libxml2 sax2 - 10% ? (Lubos) + threaded package2 / zipping (Matus) + threaded XLS[X] XclExpRow export win - ~20% (Michael) + bogus image compression avoidance (Matus) + calc bulk sliding window dep. tracking (Kohei) + Lateish Feature collection: + OpenGL rendering for Windows by default for good drivers (various) + CloudOn really waiting for the OpenGL work (Ptyl) + ongoing gerrit patch submissions + chart related patches in gerrit - fear factor (Kohei) + a queue of UX guys patches - modifying toolbars (Moggi) + good review before the feature freeze. + Android / iOS Remote + will update the support library + new Android UI; but minor otherwise * Crashtest update (Markus) + futures / Manitu ordering update ? + migrated to a new host - 32 cores + started a test run yesterday evening - unfortunately shut down due to maintenance + takes 1 day now + Java processes during valitation biting us + threaded, load ~70 for 32 cores + when stable, will run a test with asan + memory access problems etc. + will provide the list of those that crash only with asan * Hackfests + Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud) + how it went? + well organized, thank you! + http://lefevre00.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/back-from-toulouse/ + https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2014-11-15.html https://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2014-11-16.html + people from an associated conference joined + interested in accessibility, UI, etc. + Munich hack-fest [ This Weekend ! ] (Jan-Marek): http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/ + jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account + will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming just show up etc. + November 21st-23rd, 2014 https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich + 35 or so registrations - looking fun. + still ~5 places, you can join! + Need further offers [!] ... (Bjoern) + propose Collabora / Cambridge (Michael) + should consider Las Palmas de Gran Canaria/University again (Bjoern) + Freiburg - also an option (prolly better in summer anyway (Bjoern) * Bughunting session + this weekend + Tokio: http://naruoga-en.blogspot.de/2014/11/preparing-next-libreoffice-hackfest-as.html + on IRC: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.4.0.0 * FOSDEM bits + https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15 + 20 minute slots (good to collect talks) + please consider filing by mid. December ! + Volunteer needed to book / run the hackfest afterwards. + who did it the last year? - Mirek AI + Cor had some good relationship with the BetaCowork? - ask him (Kendy) * UX Update (Kendy) + load of things sorted out, went to master + calc toolbar blogpost soon + sifr icons by default on Mac * Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy) + page updated. * Bugzilla migration update (Robinson) + Testing BSA + currently needs RPC with fdo, connecting that to our instance login broken against fdo instance right now - https://github.com/tdf/www-bugassistant/pull/42#issuecomment-62758516 + Increased volunteer interest in extending Bugzilla + got input from them
minutes of the ESC Call 2014-08-14
* Present + Robinson, Miklos, Christian, Bjorn, Michael S, Muthu * Completed Action Items + setup some VM's that can be created on-demand (Cloph) + done for the hackfest, non-public + working on creating a public machine + initial version based on Amazon marketplace Ubuntu 14.04 base, using a community version for upcoming events, which is more freely distributable * Pending Action Items: + ask UX advise wrt. wrench icons (revert or not ?) (Astron) + blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern) + open-source newer Synezip tests / speak at the conference (Umesh) + Ask for 1-2 more dev-list moderators re-visit next-week (Michael) + contact Michael / the list when students show up (Jan Marek) + help Cloph with the quickstarter disabling (Andras) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/10817/ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/10669/ * GSOC Update (Cedric) + poke students * Release Engineering update (Christian) + RC2 tagging tommorrow + 4.3.1 RC2 status + Android Remote * support of non-SSE2 capable CPUs + by accident (switch to MSVC 2012) the 4.3 Windows release requires SSE2 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82430 + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/10838/ might help + since these CPUs were made until 2005 most likely users run WinXP should we support them at least as long as WinXP? = reenable non-SSE2 support, but need testers * Crashtest update (Markus) + no Markus (maybe we should broaden the skill base to read these?) * Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy) + waiting until ~September (nearly there) * commit access confusion: + OTRS finally dead and gone in the docs, I hope (Bjoern) + Norbert set up a branch for Doug, which should nicely solve this for porting patches AI: + porting patches shouldnt be needed anymore on master, see after remaining changes in gerrit (Bjoern) + Samuel: on hold -- too many common mentors/reviewers are on vacation still * USA Hackfest update (Michael?) + Boston Hackfest + hosted by Xamarin, had some engineers come over + some good bugfixing, some good mentoring ... * Hackfests (Bjoern) + Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Seattle_LibreFest + October 26, 2014 + Bug-triaging/Intro-to-community event + Following SeaGL conference + Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek): http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/ + will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming just show up etc. + November 21st-23rd, 2014 https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible + Toulouse Hackfest ... + Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th + more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014 + Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern) * QA (Robinson) + UNCONFIRMED count creeping up. Recruiting again + More inquiries re: Windows quickstarter https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80927 + Multiple q's and bugs filed re: video playback support in Impress https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79546 - OSX (plays in QT, not in LO) + Do we document our policy for video/audio playback? (using system framework) + Status of VLC support? + Different support on different distros (Bjoern) * UX Update (Astron / Mirek) + no UX attendance * Bern Conference + book your hotels! * QA stats: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +221-251(-30 overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: QA Administrators 110 Maxim Monastirsky 29 Julien Nabet 9 Foss 8 Jay Philips 6 Joel Madero 5 Michael Stahl5 tommy27 5 Jean-Baptiste Faure 4 Urmas4 * Open 4.4 MAB + 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/1 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.3 MAB + 14/52 14/50 11/47 14/47 14/45 19/43 10/32 6/27 5/24 5/22 3/20 26% 28% 23% 29% 33% 44% 31% 22% 20% 22% 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.2 MAB + 83/244 83/243 84/236 85/235 82/229 81/222 76/215 74/212 74/210 71/207 34%34% 35%36%35%36%35%34%35%34% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 136/361 127/349 119/331 102/308 92/296 84/283 84/280 81/274 79/265 75/259 + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 435(-4) bugs open of 2952(+8)
Re: minutes of the ESC Call 2014-08-14
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 06:33:37PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: * commit access confusion: whops, missed this link relevant to the topic and branch reviews here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches Best, Bjoern ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the ESC Call 2014-08-14
* Present + Robinson, Miklos, Christian, Bjorn, Michael S, Muthu * Completed Action Items + setup some VM's that can be created on-demand (Cloph) + done for the hackfest, non-public + working on creating a public machine + initial version based on Amazon marketplace Ubuntu 14.04 base, using a community version for upcoming events, which is more freely distributable * Pending Action Items: + ask UX advise wrt. wrench icons (revert or not ?) (Astron) + blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern) + open-source newer Synezip tests / speak at the conference (Umesh) + Ask for 1-2 more dev-list moderators re-visit next-week (Michael) + contact Michael / the list when students show up (Jan Marek) + help Cloph with the quickstarter disabling (Andras) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/10817/ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/10669/ * GSOC Update (Cedric) + poke students * Release Engineering update (Christian) + RC2 tagging tommorrow + 4.3.1 RC2 status + Android Remote * support of non-SSE2 capable CPUs + by accident (switch to MSVC 2012) the 4.3 Windows release requires SSE2 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82430 + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/10838/ might help + since these CPUs were made until 2005 most likely users run WinXP should we support them at least as long as WinXP? = reenable non-SSE2 support, but need testers * Crashtest update (Markus) + no Markus (maybe we should broaden the skill base to read these?) * Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy) + waiting until ~September (nearly there) * commit access confusion: + OTRS finally dead and gone in the docs, I hope (Bjoern) + Norbert set up a branch for Doug, which should nicely solve this for porting patches AI: + porting patches shouldnt be needed anymore on master, see after remaining changes in gerrit (Bjoern) + Samuel: on hold -- too many common mentors/reviewers are on vacation still * USA Hackfest update (Michael?) + Boston Hackfest + hosted by Xamarin, had some engineers come over + some good bugfixing, some good mentoring ... * Hackfests (Bjoern) + Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Seattle_LibreFest + October 26, 2014 + Bug-triaging/Intro-to-community event + Following SeaGL conference + Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek): http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/ + will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming just show up etc. + November 21st-23rd, 2014 https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible + Toulouse Hackfest ... + Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th + more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014 + Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern) * QA (Robinson) + UNCONFIRMED count creeping up. Recruiting again + More inquiries re: Windows quickstarter https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80927 + Multiple q's and bugs filed re: video playback support in Impress https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79546 - OSX (plays in QT, not in LO) + Do we document our policy for video/audio playback? (using system framework) + Status of VLC support? + Different support on different distros (Bjoern) * UX Update (Astron / Mirek) + no UX attendance * Bern Conference + book your hotels! * QA stats: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +221-251(-30 overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: QA Administrators 110 Maxim Monastirsky 29 Julien Nabet 9 Foss 8 Jay Philips 6 Joel Madero 5 Michael Stahl5 tommy27 5 Jean-Baptiste Faure 4 Urmas4 * Open 4.4 MAB + 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/1 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.3 MAB + 14/52 14/50 11/47 14/47 14/45 19/43 10/32 6/27 5/24 5/22 3/20 26% 28% 23% 29% 33% 44% 31% 22% 20% 22% 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.2 MAB + 83/244 83/243 84/236 85/235 82/229 81/222 76/215 74/212 74/210 71/207 34%34% 35%36%35%36%35%34%35%34% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 136/361 127/349 119/331 102/308 92/296 84/283 84/280 81/274 79/265 75/259 + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 435(-4) bugs open of 2952(+8)
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the ESC Call 2014-08-14
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 06:33:37PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: * commit access confusion: whops, missed this link relevant to the topic and branch reviews here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: minutes of the ESC call ...
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 06:21:19PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: * unit test documents bloating up git repo: (Michael) + might be mine (Miklos) + automated task? + test fail on too big file? + these docs are not commited with evil intend, they are sneaking in (Bjoern) + test failure on big docs might hurt local testing (Bjoern) + git-hook would prevent pushing unsuited docs though (Bjoern) + even easier (Miklos) + gerrit doesnt show how big a binary is (mst) + git hook would handle that too (Norbert) + people would evade that (Norbert) + external repo? (Norbert) + raising awareness should be enough for now (Bjoern) AI: + update git hook (Miklos) Done as http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=66fce1f61e7e088bd92e19ecb0dd94553de6f824. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
minutes of the ESC call ...
* Present: + Kendy, Bjoern, Stephan, cloph, Lionel, Eike, Miklos, Norbert, Markus, Cedric. Eilidh, David, Michael S., Andras, Astron, Jacobo * Completed Action Items + add HackFest hardware / Amazon VMs to Board budget planning (Michael) + poke Sophie to check updating is checked in MozTrap (Cloph) + added bibisect repo (Miklos) * Dropped Action Items: + chasing build / test intermittency: + turn the SAL_WARN into a fprintf send to Cloph ? (Kendy) + run the 'make slowcheck' 20x from the top-level report (Cloph) = seems to be fixed by commits on master meanwhile + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron) * Pending Action Items: + crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph) [ calc is working, writer problems can't easily be nailed down, have to use multiple processes ] [ calc numbers increased a bit - but not as bad as expected ] + encourage icon authors to put them into git (Astron) + fix the Java bridge for MSVC2012 for 4.3 (Stephan/Michael S.) + Add StarOffice OOoXML export removal to 4.2 release notes (Cloph) * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 4.3 status + failing unit tests oddness - the hunt ... + investigating Windows test failures (spellchecking) + 4.3.0 feature freeze: + next week May, 19th -- release date overlap with OSCON + take that to QA (Bjoern) + 4.2.5 RC1 - when ? + freeze in two weeks + no trouble expected + Android / iOS remote + no news + Credits: + punted until mmmeks is back http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/ + bit out of date: worth updating for 4.3 ? + 'Contributors to Bundled Templates' - oddly coloured heading. + can we separate rows better for readability ? + embolden bold name perhaps ? + tracking tags in Redmine a stupid idea? (Bjoern) * LibreOffice 4.3.0 alpha1 bibisect: + see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions + 182 new builds + Cloph did some Windows bibisect builds for Florian UI stuff * 4.3 Features Page (Michael) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3 + please update it ! * Address Leak Sanitizer (Moggi/Sberg) + gcc/clang compiler stuff from GOOG for tracking buffer overruns etc. + works mostly out of the box + distribute build to the QA team? + runtime thing/instrumented build that spits out leaks etc. found during a run + enable for development/make check? (mst) + some junit/java trickiness here (libjpipe.so) + QA guys reporting back on bugzilla? + sure (sberg) AI: + send example (Markus) + http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-May/061142.html * FISL Brazil Update (Fridrich) + punted -- no Fridrich * UX update (Astron) + start menu bug updated -- not too good an idea + vendor spamming etc. + discussion at http://wordpress.com/my-stats/ + autotext stuff? * GSoC update (Fridrich/Cedric?) + where are we supposed to be at as of now ? + coding starts next week + add students with commit accounts [ for their branches ] AI: + add them to commiter group (Norbert) * Distro branches commits (Michael) punted -- no Michael * unit test documents bloating up git repo: (Michael) + might be mine (Miklos) + automated task? + test fail on too big file? + these docs are not commited with evil intend, they are sneaking in (Bjoern) + test failure on big docs might hurt local testing (Bjoern) + git-hook would prevent pushing unsuited docs though (Bjoern) + even easier (Miklos) + gerrit doesnt show how big a binary is (mst) + git hook would handle that too (Norbert) + people would evade that (Norbert) + external repo? (Norbert) + raising awareness should be enough for now (Bjoern) AI: + update git hook (Miklos) * Crashtest update (Markus) + new data ? http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/91821848a3a50229b8b96e91e9eb053a8ebc5d9a/ * Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy) * Gerrit review request (Caolan) + lots of stuff building up there that needs review; help appreciated. + better shape than last week + we need to be more vicious on abandoning old ones AI: + walk through old changes, nag people, abandon changes (Bjoern) * Coverity Update (Caolan/Markus) + seems like a lot going on there, how are the stats ? AI: + needs a new build scheduled (moggi) * collect all bibisects at dev-downloads (Bjoern) + AFAIK e.g. Miklos has a bibisect repo somewhere + suggesting to have all bibisects with a copy at http://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/bibisect/ too + more importantly: have all available bibisects listed at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect + done by now (Miklos) * C++11 for
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the ESC call ...
* Present: + Kendy, Bjoern, Stephan, cloph, Lionel, Eike, Miklos, Norbert, Markus, Cedric. Eilidh, David, Michael S., Andras, Astron, Jacobo * Completed Action Items + add HackFest hardware / Amazon VMs to Board budget planning (Michael) + poke Sophie to check updating is checked in MozTrap (Cloph) + added bibisect repo (Miklos) * Dropped Action Items: + chasing build / test intermittency: + turn the SAL_WARN into a fprintf send to Cloph ? (Kendy) + run the 'make slowcheck' 20x from the top-level report (Cloph) = seems to be fixed by commits on master meanwhile + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron) * Pending Action Items: + crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph) [ calc is working, writer problems can't easily be nailed down, have to use multiple processes ] [ calc numbers increased a bit - but not as bad as expected ] + encourage icon authors to put them into git (Astron) + fix the Java bridge for MSVC2012 for 4.3 (Stephan/Michael S.) + Add StarOffice OOoXML export removal to 4.2 release notes (Cloph) * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 4.3 status + failing unit tests oddness - the hunt ... + investigating Windows test failures (spellchecking) + 4.3.0 feature freeze: + next week May, 19th -- release date overlap with OSCON + take that to QA (Bjoern) + 4.2.5 RC1 - when ? + freeze in two weeks + no trouble expected + Android / iOS remote + no news + Credits: + punted until mmmeks is back http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/ + bit out of date: worth updating for 4.3 ? + 'Contributors to Bundled Templates' - oddly coloured heading. + can we separate rows better for readability ? + embolden bold name perhaps ? + tracking tags in Redmine a stupid idea? (Bjoern) * LibreOffice 4.3.0 alpha1 bibisect: + see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions + 182 new builds + Cloph did some Windows bibisect builds for Florian UI stuff * 4.3 Features Page (Michael) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3 + please update it ! * Address Leak Sanitizer (Moggi/Sberg) + gcc/clang compiler stuff from GOOG for tracking buffer overruns etc. + works mostly out of the box + distribute build to the QA team? + runtime thing/instrumented build that spits out leaks etc. found during a run + enable for development/make check? (mst) + some junit/java trickiness here (libjpipe.so) + QA guys reporting back on bugzilla? + sure (sberg) AI: + send example (Markus) + http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-May/061142.html * FISL Brazil Update (Fridrich) + punted -- no Fridrich * UX update (Astron) + start menu bug updated -- not too good an idea + vendor spamming etc. + discussion at http://wordpress.com/my-stats/ + autotext stuff? * GSoC update (Fridrich/Cedric?) + where are we supposed to be at as of now ? + coding starts next week + add students with commit accounts [ for their branches ] AI: + add them to commiter group (Norbert) * Distro branches commits (Michael) punted -- no Michael * unit test documents bloating up git repo: (Michael) + might be mine (Miklos) + automated task? + test fail on too big file? + these docs are not commited with evil intend, they are sneaking in (Bjoern) + test failure on big docs might hurt local testing (Bjoern) + git-hook would prevent pushing unsuited docs though (Bjoern) + even easier (Miklos) + gerrit doesnt show how big a binary is (mst) + git hook would handle that too (Norbert) + people would evade that (Norbert) + external repo? (Norbert) + raising awareness should be enough for now (Bjoern) AI: + update git hook (Miklos) * Crashtest update (Markus) + new data ? http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/91821848a3a50229b8b96e91e9eb053a8ebc5d9a/ * Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy) * Gerrit review request (Caolan) + lots of stuff building up there that needs review; help appreciated. + better shape than last week + we need to be more vicious on abandoning old ones AI: + walk through old changes, nag people, abandon changes (Bjoern) * Coverity Update (Caolan/Markus) + seems like a lot going on there, how are the stats ? AI: + needs a new build scheduled (moggi) * collect all bibisects at dev-downloads (Bjoern) + AFAIK e.g. Miklos has a bibisect repo somewhere + suggesting to have all bibisects with a copy at http://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/bibisect/ too + more importantly: have all available bibisects listed at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bibisect + done by now (Miklos) * C++11 for
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15
Thorsten Behrens wrote * Pending Action Items: + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy) Please make sure that you check OS version first. See related bug report https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65128 Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Minutes-of-the-ESC-call-2013-08-15-tp4070282p4070969.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15
Hi Thorsten, Don't we send the OS to the server? This should be implemented in the server, not in LibreOffice itself... Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger Am 21.08.2013 um 19:14 schrieb Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org: Pedro wrote: Thorsten Behrens wrote * Pending Action Items: + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy) Please make sure that you check OS version first. Hi Pedro, I don't think that is possible - 3.6.x versions are already out there, and we cannot retroactively add the feature. Cheers, -- Thorsten ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15
Florian Reisinger wrote: Don't we send the OS to the server? Yes. But the OS in this case is just 'Windows'. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15
Hi Thorsten, all Thorsten Behrens wrote I don't think that is possible - 3.6.x versions are already out there, and we cannot retroactively add the feature. Good point. Maybe it's worth adding the check for OS version in the 4.2 branch to start testing with XP? I know Windows 2000 shouldn't be used anywhere by now but Windows XP still has nearly a 40% cut of the desktop OS... In any case the OS version check can still be added to the Installer if the upgrade is not forced for 4.0.5 but for 4.0.6??? (or is this considered a new feature and can only be added to 4.2?) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65129 Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Minutes-of-the-ESC-call-2013-08-15-tp4070282p4070994.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15
Attending: Caolan, Christian, David, Eike, Kendy, Kohei, Lionel, Michael S., Norbert, Petr, Robinson, Stephan, Thorsten, Tim, Tsahi * Completed Action Items: + add 'download updates from inside LibO' to GSoC wiki page (Astron) + come up with proposal for what to do about .debs (retired, Petr fixed a set of regressions in 4.1.1) + polish push chrome performance bits to a feature branch (Pierre-Eric) + send details / howto to have patches with their author's name submitted to Tsahi (Michael) * New Action Items: + roll out Easy Hack rotation, incrementally improve afterwards (Robinson) + introduce interested people into update service maintenance (Kendy) + poke fdo admins for own BZ instance (Thorsten) * Pending Action Items: + dig out the URL for GSOC travel funding (Cedric) + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy) + create i18n tool to ensure style issues (also unique fn names) don't recur fdo#67786 (Andras) + switch to pure sidebar mode in master - but not enabled by default, except in Impress (Caolan) - pending UX input + come up with a proposal on what still needs improving in sidebar land (Astron) + suggestions for next API incompatibility release timing welcome (Bjoern) * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + 4.0.5 rc2 - RC1 is published, rc2 done pre-announced, mirror push ongoing - scheduled release next week + 4.1.1 rc2 + Writer / style translation issue status (Cedric) - commit deadline next Monday, tagging on Tuesday * 4.1.2 RC1 - first week of September * QA update (Robinson) + increase in unconfirmed bugs - renewed QA team effort to stay on top there + Regressions in 4.2 - some regressions found in 4.2pre, need to encourage more tech savvy users to test pre-release builds - Cloph: new style download page has pre-release builds selectable - Robinson: use the online update to indicate there are new pre-release builds - Norbert: don't publicize nightly master builds too widely - Thorsten: possibly pick some master builds before official alphas, to get early feedback on new features + proposal to migrate bugzilla to our infra - Robinson: QA needs more tweaks, BZ should be tailored much better to project needs - have direct admin access, timely responses - rename the version field label to better match our usage - add a number of useful extensions - Norbert: avoid to have QA/Users to work around limitations in BZ, that burn time and energy - Thorsten: as a first step, try to get our own BZ instance at fdo + Nightly build availability - two additional Windows builders now with nightly uploads + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +134-96(+38 overall) many thanks to the top four bug squashers: Urmas 8 Joel 8 Miklos 6 ign_christian 4 * Open 4.2 MAB + 6/6 7/7 2/2 2/2 1/1 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675 * Open 4.1 MAB + 15/81 13/77 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52 7/48 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 19% 17% 12% 17% 5% 14% 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.0 MAB + 44/171 32/157 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 26%20%10% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9%12% 11% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 41 (of 137) older ? + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 333(+?) bugs open of 1875(+?) total * ~Component count net * Writer - 101 (+?) Spreadsheet - 44 (+?) Libreoffice - 35 (+?) Presentation - 27 (+?) Crashes - 23 (+?) Database - 20 (+?) Drawing - 16 (+?) Borders - 15 (+?) Migration - 3 (+?) BASIC - 3 (+?) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1 -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 02:56:04 +0200, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: + Closing 3.6 MABs * Tommy did that, thanks a lot! not yet finished, it will take more weeks to complete... when I started the review 62 MABs were present, actually the count is at 49. + MAB handling: * by next major release, merge into single list do you mean that when 4.2.0 is out, all the 4.0 and 4.1 and 4.2 MABs will be merged? do you think about a single 4.x MAB page and then a 5.x MAB? * instead of individual mails, get daily MAB digest (Bjoern) * every 4-5 months, cleanse older, not-so-critical unfixed bugs from MAB list I agree. * Open 4.0 MAB + 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 10% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 12%11% 13% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 actully the open count for 4.0 MAB is 25 bugs, because of some 3.6 MABs that I moved there. why do you have a smaller number? ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01
Tommy wrote: + Closing 3.6 MABs * Tommy did that, thanks a lot! not yet finished, it will take more weeks to complete... when I started the review 62 MABs were present, actually the count is at 49. Thank you still! :) + MAB handling: * by next major release, merge into single list do you mean that when 4.2.0 is out, all the 4.0 and 4.1 and 4.2 MABs will be merged? do you think about a single 4.x MAB page and then a 5.x MAB? The proposal was to have a single MAB list, with the bug version field then indicating (as usual) the first version this was encountered. actully the open count for 4.0 MAB is 25 bugs, because of some 3.6 MABs that I moved there. why do you have a smaller number? Did not re-generate the stats before sending out the minutes, sorry. Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01
Attending: Sophie, Tibby, Kohei, Astron, Norbert, Lionel, Bjoern, Joel, Cloph, Petr, Thorsten * Completed Action Items: + fdo#60858 needs input (Astron) + file svg / help-about issue in master as 4.2 MAB (Astron) * Pending Action Items: + improve configure to avoid versioning mistakes (Cloph) + come up with proposal for what to do about .debs (Rene, Bjoern, Petr) - some discussion around this issue, publishing plain tarballs has the rather unacceptable drawback that menu integration is missing - distro packages (for widely-deployed distro versions) usually not available at the time of upstream release + rotate easy hacks on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks (Joel) - first demo up from Robinson: http://testing.eagleeyet.net/mw/index.php/EasyHacks + polish push chrome performance bits to a feature branch (Pierre-Eric) - ongoing + take a look at the gerrit migration (Norbert) - ongoing, waiting for migration to new vm + dig out the URL for GSOC travel funding (Cedric) * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 4.0.5 rc1 status - ongoing, needed Win32 Linux build box setups. PPC is missing still. + 4.1.1 rc1 commit deadline Aug 5th + Writer / style translation issue evil status (Cedric) AI: * Cloph to poke andras wrt. translation updates / README AI: + Impress autoplay feature - deferred to 4.1.2 (Thorsten) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4998 - needs triple review * when to update the on-line update code (Michael) AI: + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy) AI: + propose download updates from inside LibO as GSoC idea (Astron) * API date issue (Lionel/Stephan) + patches pending on gerrit for -4-1 AI: + review get them in before Monday: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5245 * QA update (Joel) + French BSA update * thx to Robinson / Sophie! * 6 reports so far * Sophie thinks it'll pick up in September + Contest result blog * http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/contest-results/ + QA netbook blog * http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/08/01/libreoffice-qa-volunteers-armed-and-ready/ + Bibisected but not fixed (current count 51) * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=328050status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstrquery_format=advancedstatus_whiteboard=bibisected%2C%20bibisect40%2C%20bibisect35bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDproduct=LibreOffice + Closing 3.6 MABs * Tommy did that, thanks a lot! + MAB handling: * by next major release, merge into single list * instead of individual mails, get daily MAB digest (Bjoern) * every 4-5 months, cleanse older, not-so-critical unfixed bugs from MAB list + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +217-148(+69 overall) many thanks to the top five bug squashers: Urmas 15 Cor Nouws 14 ign_christian 11 Jesus Corrius 7 Lionel Elie Mamane 7 * UX input (Astron) + happy about new image and text toolbar from GSoC + looking into about:config UI now * Extra items: + suggestions for next API incompatibility release timing welcome (Bjoern) * Open 4.2 MAB + 2/2 2/2 1/1 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675 * Open 4.1 MAB + 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52 7/48 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 12% 17% 5% 14% 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.0 MAB + 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 10% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 12%11%13% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 33/128 33/125 34/124 34/123 36/122 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 301(+10) bugs open of 1801(+39) total * ~Component count net * Writer - 94 (+0) Libreoffice - 32 (+3) Spreadsheet - 30 (+0) Crashes - 24 (+0) Presentation - 24 (+0) Database - 23 (+0) Drawing - 14 (+1) Borders - 13 (-1) Migration - 4 (+0) BASIC - 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1 -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01
Attending: Sophie, Tibby, Kohei, Astron, Norbert, Lionel, Bjoern, Joel, Cloph, Petr, Thorsten * Completed Action Items: + fdo#60858 needs input (Astron) + file svg / help-about issue in master as 4.2 MAB (Astron) * Pending Action Items: + improve configure to avoid versioning mistakes (Cloph) + come up with proposal for what to do about .debs (Rene, Bjoern, Petr) - some discussion around this issue, publishing plain tarballs has the rather unacceptable drawback that menu integration is missing - distro packages (for widely-deployed distro versions) usually not available at the time of upstream release + rotate easy hacks on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks (Joel) - first demo up from Robinson: http://testing.eagleeyet.net/mw/index.php/EasyHacks + polish push chrome performance bits to a feature branch (Pierre-Eric) - ongoing + take a look at the gerrit migration (Norbert) - ongoing, waiting for migration to new vm + dig out the URL for GSOC travel funding (Cedric) * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 4.0.5 rc1 status - ongoing, needed Win32 Linux build box setups. PPC is missing still. + 4.1.1 rc1 commit deadline Aug 5th + Writer / style translation issue evil status (Cedric) AI: * Cloph to poke andras wrt. translation updates / README AI: + Impress autoplay feature - deferred to 4.1.2 (Thorsten) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4998 - needs triple review * when to update the on-line update code (Michael) AI: + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy) AI: + propose download updates from inside LibO as GSoC idea (Astron) * API date issue (Lionel/Stephan) + patches pending on gerrit for -4-1 AI: + review get them in before Monday: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5245 * QA update (Joel) + French BSA update * thx to Robinson / Sophie! * 6 reports so far * Sophie thinks it'll pick up in September + Contest result blog * http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/contest-results/ + QA netbook blog * http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/08/01/libreoffice-qa-volunteers-armed-and-ready/ + Bibisected but not fixed (current count 51) * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=328050status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstrquery_format=advancedstatus_whiteboard=bibisected%2C%20bibisect40%2C%20bibisect35bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDproduct=LibreOffice + Closing 3.6 MABs * Tommy did that, thanks a lot! + MAB handling: * by next major release, merge into single list * instead of individual mails, get daily MAB digest (Bjoern) * every 4-5 months, cleanse older, not-so-critical unfixed bugs from MAB list + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +217-148(+69 overall) many thanks to the top five bug squashers: Urmas 15 Cor Nouws 14 ign_christian 11 Jesus Corrius 7 Lionel Elie Mamane 7 * UX input (Astron) + happy about new image and text toolbar from GSoC + looking into about:config UI now * Extra items: + suggestions for next API incompatibility release timing welcome (Bjoern) * Open 4.2 MAB + 2/2 2/2 1/1 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675 * Open 4.1 MAB + 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52 7/48 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 12% 17% 5% 14% 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.0 MAB + 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 10% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 12%11%13% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 33/128 33/125 34/124 34/123 36/122 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 301(+10) bugs open of 1801(+39) total * ~Component count net * Writer - 94 (+0) Libreoffice - 32 (+3) Spreadsheet - 30 (+0) Crashes - 24 (+0) Presentation - 24 (+0) Database - 23 (+0) Drawing - 14 (+1) Borders - 13 (-1) Migration - 4 (+0) BASIC - 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1 -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address:
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-07-04
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 03:24:17 +0200, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: * Pending Action items: + update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel) . will the new 3.3 3.4 all release version tags affect only new processed bugs or will have retroactive effect on previously filed bugs? do we expect to have old versions bugs table merged into a single one? see link: http://snipurl.com/27e8011 ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Minutes of the ESC call 2013-07-04
* Attending: Ahmad, Lionel, Eike, Petr, Caolan, Cloph, Andras, Astron, Thorsten, Michael S. * New Action items: + further improve date API for RC3 (Eike/Michael S.) * Pending Action items: + get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric) + update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel) + get windows build-bot setup (Kendy/Thorsten) * Release Engineering update (Petr/Cloph) + 3.6.7 rc2 schedule + next monday: July 8th is the deadline for rc2 + should be the very last release ... + 4.1.0 rc2 status + mirror push ongoing, with fix for signing on windows + 4.1.0 rc3 schedule + should be the very last release ... + on july 15th, triple review needed * Spreadsheet announcement / performance work + http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/07/03/amd-joins-the-document-foundation-advisory-board-to-accelerate-libreoffice/ + laying foundations for further SIMD/UMA/openCL speedups in Calc + ongoing work towards 4.2 by Kohei et al. * UX input (Astron) + looking into side panel for 4.1 + otherwise all set for 4.1, svg reader regressed in master for about box background * date API (Lionel/Michael S./Eike) + attempt incremental improvement on top of 4.1 api change + if possible in time for 4.1, to avoid changing again in 4.2 AI + eike/mst to work on a fix towards rc3 * UI conversion (Caolan) + dialogs converted to new glade UI to date: 275 * Open 4.2 MAB + 0/0 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675 * Open 4.1 MAB + 7 (of 48) older 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.0 MAB + 12 (of 134) older 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129 9% 9% 9% 12%11%13%14%13% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 60 (of 241) older 57/238 63/237 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229 25% 24%27%28%29%30%31%32% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 36 (of 122) older 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88 http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 294(-3) bugs open of 1697(+27) total * ~Component count net * Writer - 94 (-5) Spreadsheet - 27 (+3) Presentation - 27 (-2) Crashes - 23 (-3) Libreoffice - 26 (+0) Database - 25 (+1) Drawing - 18 (-2) Borders - 14 (+0) Migration - 3 (+0) BASIC - 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1 -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-07-04
* Attending: Ahmad, Lionel, Eike, Petr, Caolan, Cloph, Andras, Astron, Thorsten, Michael S. * New Action items: + further improve date API for RC3 (Eike/Michael S.) * Pending Action items: + get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric) + update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel) + get windows build-bot setup (Kendy/Thorsten) * Release Engineering update (Petr/Cloph) + 3.6.7 rc2 schedule + next monday: July 8th is the deadline for rc2 + should be the very last release ... + 4.1.0 rc2 status + mirror push ongoing, with fix for signing on windows + 4.1.0 rc3 schedule + should be the very last release ... + on july 15th, triple review needed * Spreadsheet announcement / performance work + http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/07/03/amd-joins-the-document-foundation-advisory-board-to-accelerate-libreoffice/ + laying foundations for further SIMD/UMA/openCL speedups in Calc + ongoing work towards 4.2 by Kohei et al. * UX input (Astron) + looking into side panel for 4.1 + otherwise all set for 4.1, svg reader regressed in master for about box background * date API (Lionel/Michael S./Eike) + attempt incremental improvement on top of 4.1 api change + if possible in time for 4.1, to avoid changing again in 4.2 AI + eike/mst to work on a fix towards rc3 * UI conversion (Caolan) + dialogs converted to new glade UI to date: 275 * Open 4.2 MAB + 0/0 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675 * Open 4.1 MAB + 7 (of 48) older 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 15% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1 * Open 4.0 MAB + 12 (of 134) older 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129 9% 9% 9% 12%11%13%14%13% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 60 (of 241) older 57/238 63/237 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229 25% 24%27%28%29%30%31%32% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1 * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected' + 36 (of 122) older 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88 http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 294(-3) bugs open of 1697(+27) total * ~Component count net * Writer - 94 (-5) Spreadsheet - 27 (+3) Presentation - 27 (-2) Crashes - 23 (-3) Libreoffice - 26 (+0) Database - 25 (+1) Drawing - 18 (-2) Borders - 14 (+0) Migration - 3 (+0) BASIC - 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1 -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
minutes of LibreOffice ESC call, Thur Jan 24th - 15:00UTC
Hi all, below the meeting minutes, thanks to MeetBot (only minor corrections done). If you see anything in vital need of correction, please speak up now. Best, Bjoern = #libreoffice-dev: ESC call 2013-01-24 = Meeting started by Sweetshark at 15:12:52 UTC. The full logs are available at http://pumbaa.documentfoundation.org/meetbot/libreoffice-dev/2013/libreoffice-dev.2013-01-24-15.12.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Last-time Action Items (Sweetshark, 15:14:00) * ACTION: find person who can write and add off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten) (Sweetshark, 15:14:48) * in progress: get tshirts / hoodies printed (kendy) (Sweetshark, 15:15:33) * ACTION: create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern) (Sweetshark, 15:15:51) * ACTION: inprogress: Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern) (Sweetshark, 15:16:02) * ACTION: Update gsoc ideas page before FOSDEM (Sweetshark, 15:16:29) * LINK: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all) (Sweetshark, 15:16:51) * ACTION: in progress: Investigate native build/env scripts for SDK (Bjoern) (Sweetshark, 15:17:22) * sberg and Sweetshark will look at SDK together (Sweetshark, 15:19:23) * ACTION: in progress: completing generic / Linux builds - RedHat (Caolan) (Sweetshark, 15:20:18) * Pending Action Items (Sweetshark, 15:20:25) * completed: decision on whether to switch back to old floppy save (Astron) (Sweetshark, 15:22:58) * ACTION: regression catching on tinderbox, Figure out time-out issues (Markus) (Sweetshark, 15:23:31) * completed: FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development, Markus will write to Italo to add Eilidh's talk (Markus) (Sweetshark, 15:23:48) * LINK: https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/libreoffice/ (moggi, 15:23:59) * ACTION: Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Michael M) (Sweetshark, 15:24:21) * completed: come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request for build hardware = board budget (Thorsten) (Sweetshark, 15:25:13) * ACTION: STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich) (Sweetshark, 15:25:32) * ACTION: full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517 pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S (Sweetshark, 15:26:08) * ACTION: create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) (Sweetshark, 15:26:20) * ACTION: in progress: investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten) (Sweetshark, 15:27:35) * ACTION: on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated (Sweetshark, 15:28:41) * LINK: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58699 (Sweetshark, 15:28:53) * ACTION: add off-line help and it'll appear on-line (kendy) (Sweetshark, 15:29:59) * might be better next week with new stuff by floeff (Sweetshark, 15:29:59) * ACTION: minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern) (Sweetshark, 15:30:03) * ACTION: disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M) (Sweetshark, 15:30:06) * ACTION: tweak the configure defaults, no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs (Kendy) (Sweetshark, 15:30:13) * Release Engineering update (Petr) (Sweetshark, 15:30:22) * 4.0.0 rc ready and pushed to mirror (Sweetshark, 15:33:05) * Jan 28 rc3 date, triple review, lets be careful (Sweetshark, 15:33:06) * any known issues? (Sweetshark, 15:33:06) * android remote to 4.0.0 or 4.0 branch (Thorsten) (Sweetshark, 15:33:06) * ACCEPTED: android to 4.0 branch, not 4.0.0 -- more relaxed reviews (Sweetshark, 15:34:43) * template manager remote repos moved to experimental features ( schoinobates ) (Sweetshark, 15:36:01) * 3.6.5 rc2 will go final next week if there are no issues. if you know about regressions speak up now (Sweetshark, 15:37:06) * UX Update (Astron) (Sweetshark, 15:37:31) * template manager progress (Sweetshark, 15:37:39) * restore menu entries? no, we shouldnt at all (Astron) (Sweetshark, 15:38:33) * LINK: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/1787 (Sweetshark, 15:39:03) * (Thorsten) has string changes, might cause trouble/extra work (Sweetshark, 15:40:41) * Andras: also not happty about string changes (Sweetshark, 15:41:15) * ACCEPTED: reject patch for now/postpone the patch (Sweetshark, 15:42:49) * personas punted, kendy not in the call -- some issue need to be disccussed (Sweetshark, 15:43:46) * Ubuntu font excluded so far on licensing ground, forbid renaming is a blocker/problem (Sweetshark, 15:45:57) * ACTION: clarify at Canonical (Bjoern) (Sweetshark, 15:46:18) * not available on most distros because of legal review
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-11
Thorsten Behrens schrieb: + 3.5 MAB needs cherry-picking and folding into 3.6 MAB (some don't seem to be valid most annoying) Hi, I already started my traditional End of Lifecycle MAB cleanup, results on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks#Proposed_Hard_Hacks I will shift 3.5 MAB to 3.6 MAB if appropriate of make different suggestions. Keeping current speed this will take until end 2012 + some thoughts around another 3.5 release Although I was one of those who brought up these thoughts, I believe it's not realistic to hope that an other 3.5 release with 2 or 3 additional bugfixes will bring significant benefit. But I believe for 3.6 we should rethink our release policy. We should not terminate work on a version 3.6 because most people loose interest (because they are busy with next release 3.7), that leads to a situation as we have with 3.5.7 that still 77 MAB are unfixed and nobody know why, but because the version is ready. Of course I know that it never will be possible to get really all Bugs fixed, but selection what these remaining unfixed bugs should be done by a founded decision and not by coincidence. May be something like this can help to avoid surprises 8only a first thought): final release -4 is out: --- QA does all possible efforts to sort out inappropriate MAB and and to add all required info to those bug so that they are really ready for fixing by developers. final release -3 is out: Remaining well prepared MAB will be deployed to developers similar to the HardHack proceeding. (QA-calls, ESC-calls, ...) final release -2 is out: If developers recognize that it will not be possible to fix particular bugs with acceptable costs and risk, they add them to a Wiki table (prepared by QA) with a short statement concerning these problems. That will allow additional efforts to get fixes somehow overcoming these problems final release -1 is out: Same as before Final is out final discussion concerning remaining unfixed MAB, shift to next version's MAB, if appropriate, or what ever else, even may be to do a Final + 1 release because a solution to fix important remaining MAB has been found. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-11
Thorsten Behrens schrieb: + 3.5 MAB needs cherry-picking and folding into 3.6 MAB (some don't seem to be valid most annoying) Hi, I already started my traditional End of Lifecycle MAB cleanup, results on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks#Proposed_Hard_Hacks I will shift 3.5 MAB to 3.6 MAB if appropriate of make different suggestions. Keeping current speed this will take until end 2012 + some thoughts around another 3.5 release Although I was one of those who brought up these thoughts, I believe it's not realistic to hope that an other 3.5 release with 2 or 3 additional bugfixes will bring significant benefit. But I believe for 3.6 we should rethink our release policy. We should not terminate work on a version 3.6 because most people loose interest (because they are busy with next release 3.7), that leads to a situation as we have with 3.5.7 that still 77 MAB are unfixed and nobody know why, but because the version is ready. Of course I know that it never will be possible to get really all Bugs fixed, but selection what these remaining unfixed bugs should be done by a founded decision and not by coincidence. May be something like this can help to avoid surprises 8only a first thought): final release -4 is out: --- QA does all possible efforts to sort out inappropriate MAB and and to add all required info to those bug so that they are really ready for fixing by developers. final release -3 is out: Remaining well prepared MAB will be deployed to developers similar to the HardHack proceeding. (QA-calls, ESC-calls, ...) final release -2 is out: If developers recognize that it will not be possible to fix particular bugs with acceptable costs and risk, they add them to a Wiki table (prepared by QA) with a short statement concerning these problems. That will allow additional efforts to get fixes somehow overcoming these problems final release -1 is out: Same as before Final is out final discussion concerning remaining unfixed MAB, shift to next version's MAB, if appropriate, or what ever else, even may be to do a Final + 1 release because a solution to fix important remaining MAB has been found. Best regards Rainer ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-11
Attending: Joel, Fridrich, Thorsten, Eike, Andras, Caolan, Kendy, David, Mirek, Kohei, Cedric, Rodo, Andras, Astron, Michael S. * Completed Action Items + Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue + done/expired + mail thb/sweetshark for a cheap Berlin / hotel room + done + push distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch (Andras) + done * Pending Action Items + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy) + script written, deploy it + issues to look into if we can + fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten) + fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon) + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten) + fdo#51023 - impress DD crasher - (Radek) + ping Tollef wrt. sysadmin work (Bjoern) * Release Engineering update (Petr) + vacation / quality report (deferred) + should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ? + fdo#55560 / fdo#52022 needs fixing before general update + upgrade 3.5.0-3.5.1 to 3.6.2 though, those versions are clearly inferior. + 3.5.7 status + 3.5.7 rc2 built (fixes docx crasher), due next week + 3.6.3 rc1 status + builds running, mirror push tomorrow + rc2 22nd of october (fdo#55560 needs fixing!) * UI / design update (Astron) + gtk3 prototype + interesting food for thought + icons for new conditional formats in cells ... (pending) + no chat this week, handling happens on the list * conference (Thorsten) + in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 local time at the venue. * QA update (Joel) + HardHack list moved to wiki - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks - updates / assignments appreciated there + 3.5 MAB needs cherry-picking and folding into 3.6 MAB (some don't seem to be valid most annoying) + some thoughts around another 3.5 release * Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]: + fdo#55290 - LOdev 3.7 won't install [ on Windows ]. Error 1935 (dtardon) + fdo#55560 - CRASH when Format Cells (menu and Context menu) (Fridrich/Kohei) + fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan) + fdo#55685 - CRASH when create or modify Character Style or Paragraph Style (fixed by Caolan) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * Open HardHacks + fdo#50285 - Saving document as .doc introduces bogus superscript text * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 27 (of 127) older 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 11/58 21%32%34%34%35% 33% 28% 29% 26% 19% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 78 open (of 278) older 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270 81/269 73/258 73/257 28% 29%29%30%30%30%26%28% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' + 185(+6) bugs open of 853(+20) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 80 (-1) + Crashes - 21 (+3) + Presentation - 18 (+1) + LibreOffice - 13 (-1) + Borders - 13 (+0) + Drawing - 13 (+0) + Database - 14 (+1) + Migration- 6 (-4) + Spreadsheet - 15 (+6) + Writer / RTF - 3 (+1) + Basic- 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 -- Thorsten pgpfiVQfcyf5A.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-11
Attending: Joel, Fridrich, Thorsten, Eike, Andras, Caolan, Kendy, David, Mirek, Kohei, Cedric, Rodo, Andras, Astron, Michael S. * Completed Action Items + Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue + done/expired + mail thb/sweetshark for a cheap Berlin / hotel room + done + push distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch (Andras) + done * Pending Action Items + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy) + script written, deploy it + issues to look into if we can + fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten) + fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon) + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten) + fdo#51023 - impress DD crasher - (Radek) + ping Tollef wrt. sysadmin work (Bjoern) * Release Engineering update (Petr) + vacation / quality report (deferred) + should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ? + fdo#55560 / fdo#52022 needs fixing before general update + upgrade 3.5.0-3.5.1 to 3.6.2 though, those versions are clearly inferior. + 3.5.7 status + 3.5.7 rc2 built (fixes docx crasher), due next week + 3.6.3 rc1 status + builds running, mirror push tomorrow + rc2 22nd of october (fdo#55560 needs fixing!) * UI / design update (Astron) + gtk3 prototype + interesting food for thought + icons for new conditional formats in cells ... (pending) + no chat this week, handling happens on the list * conference (Thorsten) + in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 local time at the venue. * QA update (Joel) + HardHack list moved to wiki - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks - updates / assignments appreciated there + 3.5 MAB needs cherry-picking and folding into 3.6 MAB (some don't seem to be valid most annoying) + some thoughts around another 3.5 release * Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]: + fdo#55290 - LOdev 3.7 won't install [ on Windows ]. Error 1935 (dtardon) + fdo#55560 - CRASH when Format Cells (menu and Context menu) (Fridrich/Kohei) + fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan) + fdo#55685 - CRASH when create or modify Character Style or Paragraph Style (fixed by Caolan) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1 * Open HardHacks + fdo#50285 - Saving document as .doc introduces bogus superscript text * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 27 (of 127) older 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 11/58 21%32%34%34%35% 33% 28% 29% 26% 19% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 78 open (of 278) older 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270 81/269 73/258 73/257 28% 29%29%30%30%30%26%28% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' + 185(+6) bugs open of 853(+20) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 80 (-1) + Crashes - 21 (+3) + Presentation - 18 (+1) + LibreOffice - 13 (-1) + Borders - 13 (+0) + Drawing - 13 (+0) + Database - 14 (+1) + Migration- 6 (-4) + Spreadsheet - 15 (+6) + Writer / RTF - 3 (+1) + Basic- 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 -- Thorsten pgpPmEAf2V2e8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04
On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 15:43 +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I didn't think of one point during the talk: The tags should not be too generic. Ideally, for example if they all start with a SuSE prefix, that's perfect. The idea is that you should not get into the way of another distro doing the same thing. Yes of course; we'd namespace those tags suitably :-) Thanks ! Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 05:58:02PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: * distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael) + lionel: already 2000 tags, who cares about some more + resolution: check this in, tags and all + clean legacy tags at end of support life if a problem. I didn't think of one point during the talk: The tags should not be too generic. Ideally, for example if they all start with a SuSE prefix, that's perfect. The idea is that you should not get into the way of another distro doing the same thing. I'd be unhappy with tags such as libreoffice-3.6.0.2-5, because that could be the fifth packaging revision of libreoffice 3.6.0.2, for _any_ distribution. -- Lionel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04
Attending: Fridrich, Thorsten, Lionel, David Tardon, Stephan, Markus, Andras, Joel, Radek, Eric, Eike, Cedric, Björn, Astron, Michael S, Norbert, Michael M, Kohei, Kendy * Completed Action Items + simplify / improve the QA / debugging page (Michael M) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Providing_extra_information_for_the_developers + many thanks to Petr for the pretty wrapper wins. + issues to look into if we can + HH: fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric) + now back-ported to 3.6 + HH: fdo#47283 - writer undo / change-tracking interaction (Michael S) + HHL fdo#46100 - calc undo / delete sheet crash (Markus) + fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan) + fdo#53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Winfried Donkers) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review) + superseded by patch 629 ibid. + change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy (Michael) + make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich) + complete but takes 24 hours + gerrit add: private/username/branches (Norbert) * Pending Action Items + Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy) + script written, testing it for deployment + issues to look into if we can + fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten) + fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon) + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten) * Release Engineering update (Fridrich) + vacation / quality report (deferred - Petr sadly ill) + 3.6.2 retrospective + released + should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ? + accidentally skipped / discuss next week. + 3.5.7 retrospective + rc2 uploading, needed because of crasher docx regression + more lenient since 3.5.7 being last scheduled release * 3.6.3 rc1 + monday deadline for fixes + branch on tuesday - then three reviews + tinderboxes on -3-6 over weekend + reconsider schedule on monday * UI / design update (Astron) + unchanged + no chat last week * Saxon split-out (DTardon) + xslt export filters (java, saxon based) + new one, baed on libxslt (written by peter) + for possible backward compat, still ship saxon + drop saxon from install + don't know if anybody needs it - put it into extension + where to put the extension ? + package on extensions.libro + source code outside core repos + decision: David to go ahead with this * conference (Thorsten) + in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue. + topics for an extended agenda appreciated ... + your pitch for sanity here :-) ** PLEASE REGISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH ** + http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference + speakers please just enter No for have you paid; that is a valid option. AI: + folks without a hotel - mail thb / sweetshark (for couchsurfing/rooms) * git submodules / rename (Norbert) + code-wise done, features/submodules branch + does it work when you go across the migration? + testings appreciated! + doc writing in progress + once doc is done, when to do that? + each of the four repos - rename files in all submodules - that means, if you have a patch, across the boundaries, you need to manipulate the patch + proposed submodule migration at the conference. * bibisect goodness (Norbert) + experimented on mac, collected every build on mac, 900 builds, resulting repo is 2.1G - too big + collect only once a day + collecting the windows ones too + 700M - builds are less frequent + an advanced QA / user is able to bibisect it down to 50 commits * sysadmin contract / work ... AI: + ping Tollef (Bjoern) * distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael) + want to get our product work into public git + all patches are upstreamed anyway, but this makes things better for all + since it's the same code - branch should be small size-wise + problem: lots of tags for customer / PTF builds - 20-30 tags per release + is that ok ? concerned about amount of tags ? + normally people don't get the tags (Norbert)
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04
Attending: Fridrich, Thorsten, Lionel, David Tardon, Stephan, Markus, Andras, Joel, Radek, Eric, Eike, Cedric, Björn, Astron, Michael S, Norbert, Michael M, Kohei, Kendy * Completed Action Items + simplify / improve the QA / debugging page (Michael M) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Providing_extra_information_for_the_developers + many thanks to Petr for the pretty wrapper wins. + issues to look into if we can + HH: fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric) + now back-ported to 3.6 + HH: fdo#47283 - writer undo / change-tracking interaction (Michael S) + HHL fdo#46100 - calc undo / delete sheet crash (Markus) + fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan) + fdo#53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Winfried Donkers) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review) + superseded by patch 629 ibid. + change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy (Michael) + make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich) + complete but takes 24 hours + gerrit add: private/username/branches (Norbert) * Pending Action Items + Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy) + script written, testing it for deployment + issues to look into if we can + fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten) + fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon) + fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten) * Release Engineering update (Fridrich) + vacation / quality report (deferred - Petr sadly ill) + 3.6.2 retrospective + released + should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ? + accidentally skipped / discuss next week. + 3.5.7 retrospective + rc2 uploading, needed because of crasher docx regression + more lenient since 3.5.7 being last scheduled release * 3.6.3 rc1 + monday deadline for fixes + branch on tuesday - then three reviews + tinderboxes on -3-6 over weekend + reconsider schedule on monday * UI / design update (Astron) + unchanged + no chat last week * Saxon split-out (DTardon) + xslt export filters (java, saxon based) + new one, baed on libxslt (written by peter) + for possible backward compat, still ship saxon + drop saxon from install + don't know if anybody needs it - put it into extension + where to put the extension ? + package on extensions.libro + source code outside core repos + decision: David to go ahead with this * conference (Thorsten) + in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue. + topics for an extended agenda appreciated ... + your pitch for sanity here :-) ** PLEASE REGISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH ** + http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference + speakers please just enter No for have you paid; that is a valid option. AI: + folks without a hotel - mail thb / sweetshark (for couchsurfing/rooms) * git submodules / rename (Norbert) + code-wise done, features/submodules branch + does it work when you go across the migration? + testings appreciated! + doc writing in progress + once doc is done, when to do that? + each of the four repos - rename files in all submodules - that means, if you have a patch, across the boundaries, you need to manipulate the patch + proposed submodule migration at the conference. * bibisect goodness (Norbert) + experimented on mac, collected every build on mac, 900 builds, resulting repo is 2.1G - too big + collect only once a day + collecting the windows ones too + 700M - builds are less frequent + an advanced QA / user is able to bibisect it down to 50 commits * sysadmin contract / work ... AI: + ping Tollef (Bjoern) * distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael) + want to get our product work into public git + all patches are upstreamed anyway, but this makes things better for all + since it's the same code - branch should be small size-wise + problem: lots of tags for customer / PTF builds - 20-30 tags per release + is that ok ? concerned about amount of tags ? + normally people don't get the tags (Norbert)
Re: Switch Windows to MinGW [was: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30]
Hi Lionel, Lionel Elie Mamane píše v Ne 02. 09. 2012 v 09:38 +0200: * Pending Action Items + 4.0 issues (Everyone) + everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC! + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 * review: Windows release binaries produced using MinGW Generally, as a developer, I'd love that, because more familiar tools, etc. For the release builds, we are not there yet, I am afraid. But for development, it works reliably enough; meaning whenever I need to implement something Windows-only, I do that on Linux via cross-compiling. [Only from time to time, installation issues appear, like the recent missing nss/nspr.] All the best, Kendy ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Switch Windows to MinGW [was: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30]
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 09:54:56PM +0200, David Ostrovsky wrote: On 02.09.2012 09:38, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: * QA update (Rainer) + HardHacks: 32948 Linux Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source Wizard fails with message No SDBC driver was found Sent back to QA after more analysis. This one is related to the decision of Debian/Ubuntu maintainers to disable LO's mozilla integration in their distro. With mozilla disabled the mesage above is the expected behaviour. It would probably be more clear to the user if the option would be unavailable (not listed) or greyed out. As always with open source you have more then one work around here: 1. Compile LO yourself (...) 2. (...) ongoing efforts to provide alternative (...) 3. If all above fail for your change your distribution. Or use TDF's binaries instead of the distro ones. -- Lionel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Switch Windows to MinGW [was: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30]
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 11:20:49PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: * Pending Action Items + 4.0 issues (Everyone) + everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC! + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 * review: Windows release binaries produced using MinGW Generally, as a developer, I'd love that, because more familiar tools, etc. With my Base developer hat on, I'd say we'd need to fix this MinGW MAB, or check it doesn't affect master: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43298 Best done by a Windows expert; I'll be available for help. This one also looks nasty: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43315 * QA update (Rainer) + HardHacks: 32948 Linux Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source Wizard fails with message No SDBC driver was found + 32948 Lionel? Sent back to QA after more analysis. -- Lionel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Switch Windows to MinGW [was: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30]
On 02.09.2012 09:38, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: * QA update (Rainer) + HardHacks: 32948 Linux Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source Wizard fails with message No SDBC driver was found Sent back to QA after more analysis. This one is related to the decision of Debian/Ubuntu maintainers to disable LO's mozilla integration in their distro. With mozilla disabled the mesage above is the expected behaviour. As always with open source you have more then one work around here: 1. Compile LO yourself on Debian/Ubuntu. Don't forget to enable mozilla as it currently disabled per default. 2. Watch ongoing efforts to provide alternative (not mozilla based) mork driver implementation, or ... better help out there ;-) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51004 3. If all above fail for your change your distribution. Regards David ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 11:20:49PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: AI: + 38913 - Stephan/Rainer to distill/research somewhat better. Distilled down already quite nicely now. Should be good to go for Stephan. AI: late feature, notify QA list of need for testing here Done. Both on the list and on the bugs themselves. Best, Bjoern ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30
* Attending: + Andras, Rainer, Norbert, Stephan, Cedric, Eike, Caolan, Petr, Cloph, Mitch, Kohei, Lionel, Björn, Astron, Cedric, Thorsten * Completed Action Items + file LibreOffice conference papers (lots) + kick/re-start MING / Win-7 tinderbox (Kendy) * Pending Action Items + 4.0 issues (Everyone) + everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC! + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 * review: Windows release binaries produced using MinGW * review: Get rid of Berkeley DB files + make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich) + crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz) + re-think our bundled font list (Astron / design-team) * GSOC update (Cedric) + all students remaining after mid-term passed successfully AI: + invite successful students to come to the conference * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 3.6.1 release * out - most of the annoying bugs fixed + 3.6.2 rc1 - September 10th + 3.5.7 rc1 - September 17th - deadline for 3.7.1 rc1 the same date as 3.7.0 final * UI / design update (Astron) + call skipped last week * gerrit - freedesktop migration retrospective (Norbert) + looks like a smooth transition + helpful queries to act upon every few days (Björn): - newcomer patches w/o attention: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+-label:code-review+-reviewerin:Committers+branch:master+project:core,n,z - cherrypick requests for release branches: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+-branch:master+project:core,n,z - abandon patches with negatives: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+label:code-review%253C%253D-1+-change:Ie702c371,n,z AI: (can only be done by owner or gerrit admin) AI + put the above things into the wiki (Björn) * QA update (Rainer) + HardHacks: ID OS Component - Summary 38913 Windows Libreoffice - CRASH when loading Danish dictionary at startup citing msvcr90.dll after upgrade 32948 Linux Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source Wizard fails with message No SDBC driver was found 34548 All Presentation - EDITING: CRASH in action after Undo 36681 All Writer - EDITING: after insert/removal of a picture (or alike) view scrolls to begin/end of document 33302 Mac Libreoffice - FILEOPEN/EDITING RTL text: parentheses and brackets (...) [...] inverted to )...( ]...[ with some fonts + 36681 fixed by Cedric AI: + 33302 Mac - Thorsten + 32948 Lionel? AI: + 38913 - Stephan/Rainer to distill/research somewhat better. + summary statements desirable for bugs with lots of comments / additional precondition before naming them hardhacks * 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy) * late feature request for 3.6.2 (Eike) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/511 - nods in the ESC, 3 approvals needed from differently affiliated people + Cedric nominates Writer header/footer fix as another potential AI: late feature, notify QA list of need for testing here * dictionary bundling (Stephan) + see http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-August/037671.html * consolidate dictionary installation across platforms * change msi installer scripts to cut down number of dicts, AI: according to system locale (Stephan) * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 27 (of 96) older 26/91 21/80 11/58 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21 28% 29% 26% 19% 22% 23% 19% 27% 31% 19% 24% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 73 open (of 258) older 73/257 76/256 75/253 77/253 73/250 72/249 67/244 70/243 73/241 26% 28%30% 30%30%29%29%27% 29%30% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' + 171(+4) bugs open of 774(+23) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 76 (+7) + Crashes - 18 (-2) + Presentation - 18 (+0) + Database - 15 (+1) + LibreOffice - 14 (+1) + Migration- 11 (-1) + Drawing - 12 (+0) + Spreadsheet - 9 (+0) + Borders - 11 (+3) + Writer / RTF - 4 (+0) + Basic- 3 (+1) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 -- Thorsten pgpbZ5rfdp1ZW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-07-26
Hi, On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:22:12AM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: + notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern) - currently blocked on Michael reviewing the mail template Best, Bjoern ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-07-26
Thorsten Behrens píše v Pá 27. 07. 2012 v 01:22 +0200: * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 3.6.0 / RC3 status * rc3 - uploading to mirrors * have rc4 on Monday due to Win32 startup bug We do rc4 today (Friday). The Windows rc3 build was wrong, so we needed another build anyway. + 3.5.6 RC1 - July 30th ish * moved commit deadline from Monday to Tuesday Thus no need to move the commit deadline for 3.5.6-rc1. Let's do it on Monday as usual. Best Regards, Petr ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice] Minutes of the ESC call
Present: Norbert, Andras, Kendy, Lionel, Stephan, Michael S., Eike, Petr [maybe more?] * Completed Action Items + update / file first 'most annoying' bug comment for 3.6 tracker to encourage direct marking of deps (Petr) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6 + talk to Debian guys wrt. packaging cppunit etc. (Markus) + Lionel did that, Markus answered follow-up questions * Pending Action Items + [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins) + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo fix (Michael) + review slowcheck patch for tail_build's Makefile (Bjoern) + branch 'build', 'bootstrap' as libreoffice-3-5 or sim., and wipe master with a helpful link (Michael S) + needs fd.o admin help, bug for that created, Tollef on vacation + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45354 * Action Items review * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 3.5.0 status + tags created, builds in progress + problems with Windows and MacOSX builds, hopefully we'll have builds tomorrow + cgit is down :-( + Petr is not aware of a blocker, hopefully we'll release the next week + no builds planned for the next 2 weeks, please continue fixing :-) + please mention the important annoying bugs in the release notes + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5#Most_annoying_bugs * cgit / git repository + nobody at fd.o to fix it :-( - probably they have a new server, or use ipv6 now, or what + the way around is to set the right IP addresss in /etc/hosts, or Norbert's gitorious mirror * QA update (Rainer) + Rainer couldn't join, unfortunately * mailing list [LibreOffice] header issue: do or don't + [LibreOffice] in header + Lionel: consumes space + Kendy: filtering on [something] is unreliable anyway AA + consensus: let's drop it see (action item for Kendy) + Reply-To: mangling? + consensus: no changes there, we won't do Reply-To: list * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 32 (of 104) open, last weeks: 28/93, 21/76, 23/71 + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' (84 bugs) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764 + Writer - 35 + Michael S. trying to look, unfortunately distracted by other things + Presentation - 9 + LibreOffice - 9 + Spreadsheet - 7 + Database - 7 + Drawing - 5 + Basic - 2 ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
