templates.libreoffice.org CMIS/FTP/DAV support

2012-12-12 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Andreas,

The UX guys asked me to have the new templates manager out for 4.0 and
I'm working hard these days to fix the usability issues around this one.

It would be even better to have the templates.libreoffice.org repository
set up as a default remote templates location accessible from the new
dialog. For that to work we need to have an access to the template files
via one of those protocols: CMIS, FTP, WebDAV.

Could you help us on the plone side to get this ready?

Thanks a lot for your help.
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Re: templates.libreoffice.org CMIS/FTP/DAV support

2012-12-12 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Cedric,

Am 12.12.2012 10:22, schrieb Cedric Bosdonnat:
 Hi Andreas,

 The UX guys asked me to have the new templates manager out for 4.0 and
 I'm working hard these days to fix the usability issues around this one.

 It would be even better to have the templates.libreoffice.org repository
 set up as a default remote templates location accessible from the new
 dialog. For that to work we need to have an access to the template files
 via one of those protocols: CMIS, FTP, WebDAV.

 Could you help us on the plone side to get this ready?

yes, I could do. There is currently a WebDAV available for the
extensions- and the template-site:
webdav://extensions.libreoffice.org
webdav://templates.libreoffice.org

Both need a login.

It would be posible to change the buildout thus there are a special port
for the WebDAV. I did that for the conference-site.

I've not tried out ftp with Plone yet. But there is a description that
it would work, if it was added to the buildout script.

I don't know yet anything about CMIS-support for Plone. But maybe you
are the expert in that area ;-)

I'm currently working on a new solution for the templates-repository
with content-types based on the Dexterity framework. It's intended to
run on a more flat hierarchy: template-center, projects, downloadable files.

I managed to create a structure with the different content objects, but
there are some steps missing yet, e.g. the indexing, search and display
feature. I've the goal to get ready with this new environment at Fosdem
2013, but I'm not shure if I could manage without some help (extra
manpower/womenpower ;-)

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: templates.libreoffice.org CMIS/FTP/DAV support

2012-12-12 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 19:57 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote:
  Could you help us on the plone side to get this ready?
 
 yes, I could do. There is currently a WebDAV available for the
 extensions- and the template-site:
 webdav://extensions.libreoffice.org
 webdav://templates.libreoffice.org
 
 Both need a login.

Ok, great! the only thing we'll need thus is to have some public access
to webdav://templates.libreoffice.org.

 It would be posible to change the buildout thus there are a special port
 for the WebDAV. I did that for the conference-site.

You're the expert here... on LibreOffice side, we don't really need any
special port: we only need to know the URL to access the templates.

 I've not tried out ftp with Plone yet. But there is a description that
 it would work, if it was added to the buildout script.
 
 I don't know yet anything about CMIS-support for Plone. But maybe you
 are the expert in that area ;-)

As long as WebDAV is working, we can skip FTP and CMIS for the while. We
may need CMIS someday if we want to extract some additional infos on the
templates, but that's all.

 I'm currently working on a new solution for the templates-repository
 with content-types based on the Dexterity framework. It's intended to
 run on a more flat hierarchy: template-center, projects, downloadable files.
 
 I managed to create a structure with the different content objects, but
 there are some steps missing yet, e.g. the indexing, search and display
 feature. I've the goal to get ready with this new environment at Fosdem
 2013, but I'm not shure if I could manage without some help (extra
 manpower/womenpower ;-)

Tell me when you have something I can test via an anonymous webdav
access. There may be some tweaks to add on the templates management
classes (not sure).

Regards,
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Re: templates.libreoffice.org CMIS/FTP/DAV support

2012-12-12 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Cedric,

Am 12.12.2012 21:29, schrieb Cedric Bosdonnat:
 Hi Andreas,

 On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 19:57 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 Could you help us on the plone side to get this ready?

 yes, I could do. There is currently a WebDAV available for the
 extensions- and the template-site:
 webdav://extensions.libreoffice.org
 webdav://templates.libreoffice.org

 Both need a login.
 Ok, great! the only thing we'll need thus is to have some public access
 to webdav://templates.libreoffice.org.
hmm, I changed the permissions. It worked for me now. You could try the
URL of the template-center with WebDAV.

http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center

It should not be posible to reach the root of the site with anonymus
WebDAV and it should also not posible to add or write content to the
template-center or elsewhere without login. Please try that and give me
short feedback, if that works for you (I want to be sure that there is
no remaining cookie on my Laptop that makes it possible to access the
folder.
 It would be posible to change the buildout thus there are a special port
 for the WebDAV. I did that for the conference-site.
 You're the expert here... on LibreOffice side, we don't really need any
 special port: we only need to know the URL to access the templates.

Let's try if it works with the current setup. We could later use
hub.libreoffice.org for setting the path. Thus we could change the
resource later without any trouble.
 I've not tried out ftp with Plone yet. But there is a description that
 it would work, if it was added to the buildout script.

 I don't know yet anything about CMIS-support for Plone. But maybe you
 are the expert in that area ;-)
 As long as WebDAV is working, we can skip FTP and CMIS for the while. We
 may need CMIS someday if we want to extract some additional infos on the
 templates, but that's all.
Go ahead and test it.
 I'm currently working on a new solution for the templates-repository
 with content-types based on the Dexterity framework. It's intended to
 run on a more flat hierarchy: template-center, projects, downloadable files.

 I managed to create a structure with the different content objects, but
 there are some steps missing yet, e.g. the indexing, search and display
 feature. I've the goal to get ready with this new environment at Fosdem
 2013, but I'm not shure if I could manage without some help (extra
 manpower/womenpower ;-)
 Tell me when you have something I can test via an anonymous webdav
 access. There may be some tweaks to add on the templates management
 classes (not sure).

To see if it works as expected you could use the current setting.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: templates.libreoffice.org CMIS/FTP/DAV support

2012-12-12 Thread Michael Meeks

On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 19:57 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 yes, I could do. There is currently a WebDAV available for the
 extensions- and the template-site:
 webdav://extensions.libreoffice.org
 webdav://templates.libreoffice.org

If we're going to put this on a hot path that users use frequently; I
suspect we should think about the server load etc. a little - and/or how
things will cope if/as/when the server is unreachable / over-loaded ;-)

ATB,

Michael.

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Re: templates.libreoffice.org CMIS/FTP/DAV support

2012-12-12 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Michael, Cedric,

Am 12.12.2012 22:20, schrieb Michael Meeks:
 On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 19:57 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 yes, I could do. There is currently a WebDAV available for the
 extensions- and the template-site:
 webdav://extensions.libreoffice.org
 webdav://templates.libreoffice.org
   If we're going to put this on a hot path that users use frequently; I
 suspect we should think about the server load etc. a little - and/or how
 things will cope if/as/when the server is unreachable / over-loaded ;-)
sure. We will migrate to a new server soon. If I remember correctly
every webservice will run in a seperate VM then. Thus would make it
easier to monitor the different services and maintain them. But maybe we
had to change the setup later to distribute the load between different
servers. That's posible with a different Plone buildout setting.

Regards,
Andreas

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