[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-07-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to steve from comment #16)

No. There are several shortcuts (e.g. EXEs on Windows), that all eventually
call soffice.bin with required command line switches to initiate required
module in a single monolithic app. This is the same on all platforms (including
macOS), even if filenames could differ.

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-07-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from steve  ---
(Meaning a writer file opens in LibreOffice Writer and a calc file opens in
LibreOffice calc while on macOS both files open in LibreOffice.app)

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

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--- Comment #16 from steve  ---
on macOS there is LibreOffice.app. On Linux single components for writer / calc
/ ... exist, right?

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

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--- Comment #15 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to steve from comment #14)
> on windows, linux it consists of single components, making
> a re-open of documents more complex and error prone.

What do you mean?

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-07-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from steve  ---
> Every time I restart LO, and see the whole set of my recent documents, 
> including the set of several documents I had open, I wish I could select all 
> those I had open last time.

Wondering, wouldn't the solution be to re-open all documents that were open,
last time LibreOffice was closed?

Just tested this with a recent main build and with two saved writer documents
open, after closing and re-opening LibreOffice, start-center does show and
neither document is loaded.

This feels unexpected. When I close an app on macOS and re-open the app I'd
expect to return to the last state I was at, i.e. re-open both writer
documents. Although I double checked and Apple Pages does not re-open the
document which was still open before closing the app.

The reason document re-open is discussed is, because it would cover the request
to keep documents open for a longer time, when continuously working on them and
avoid cluttering the start-center UI with additional options.

Additional complexity has already been mentioned: while on macOS LibreOffice is
a single app, on windows, linux it consists of single components, making a
re-open of documents more complex and error prone.

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7)
> "Restore workspace" might be a ~reasonable feature on its own; however, I
> believe that  So my preference would be to
> implement that one first.

With all due respect, I disagree that we should not implement some easier
option, just because there could be some more complex feature covering the
goal. So please Mike, next time think twice and shut up.

Is anybody would like to implement Heiko's idea with Ctrl+Click, please don't
hesitate ;-)

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2024-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Buovjaga  ---
*** Bug 162197 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Buovjaga  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Buovjaga  ---
*** Bug 160661 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||8404

--- Comment #10 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
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This ties into the discussion around single / double-click interaction in bug
158541, and the recent (24.2) removal of multi-selection for bug 158404.

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--- Comment #9 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
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*** Bug 159811 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2024-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2021-08-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Sounds reasonable. And I have to admit that a right click on multiple selection
is acceptable UX. That means you shift/ctrl click the documents and open it per
context menu.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61914
[Bug 61914] [META] Start Center bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #7 from Mike Kaganski  ---
"Restore workspace" might be a ~reasonable feature on its own; however, I
believe that implementing bug 77590 - i.e. making Start Center accessible when
having documents open - would make the task outlined here much easier, since
opening one document, one could return to the start center and continue opening
documents (and even a mode could be implemented when opening a document from
start center would not switch to the newly opened document, but stay at the
start center). So my preference would be to implement that one first.

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
You open from the start center per double click which interferes with a
selection (although the checkbox idea might work it's bad usability). What I
could imagine is to restore the last "workspace". However, modules can be
closed individually and there is probably no chance to know whether the user
clicked Exit or Close. And this workflow could result in trouble when the
application crashes.

Mike, what do you think?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2021-07-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Luke Kendall  ---
In my original suggestion, I mentioned a checkbox to choose.
There was no suggestion to make it automatic.
I don't really understand why you're suggesting it would be automatic, or why
you think opening the same documents you had open last time, and closed via
Exit (or which were closed via Logout, system shutdown, or even a power
failure), should be a problem for reliability?

Maybe you're assuming that LO crashed? Surely that happens less often than a
graceful exit?

I don't see how either of my suggested approaches for the feature would affect
reliability, as the user still has full control. I simply proposed two UI
methods for being able to choose to open the same set of documents you had open
last session.

The main point of my suggestion is not to grow the picklist from which the user
can select each file to open one by one, but an ability to select the same set
the user had open last time.

It's up to you, I just wanted to clarify my suggestion.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2021-07-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Luke Kendall  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> Don't see this as beneficial. Automatically reopening some set of documents
> that had previously been open on LO close (or crash) would be problem prone.
> 
> The thumbnail views are taken from the MRU list recorded to
> Histories:Info['PickList']/ItemListHistory in the user profile.
> 
> Picklist size defaults to 25, but can be increased or reduced in 'Expert
> Configuration' by adjusting the "PickListSize" value.
> 
> -1
> 
> IMHO => WF

I meant an option to do so, of course.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 143495] [UI] On startup, showing recent documents, please allow selection of a set to open rather than just one

2021-07-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)

Reopening one-at-a-time --File Open, or Recents list, or Start Panels thumbnail
views--is always going to be the most reliable mechanism. We should not move
the UI away from that reliability for a "convenience" feature.

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--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Don't see this as beneficial. Automatically reopening some set of documents
that had previously been open on LO close (or crash) would be problem prone.

The thumbnail views are taken from the MRU list recorded to
Histories:Info['PickList']/ItemListHistory in the user profile.

Picklist size defaults to 25, but can be increased or reduced in 'Expert
Configuration' by adjusting the "PickListSize" value.

-1

IMHO => WF

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--- Comment #1 from Luke Kendall  ---
I just realised the UX benefit would be slightly larger, as often times I have
files open for weeks or even months, so several of the files I had open when I
exited LibreOffice are certainly not in the Recent Documents menu items.

It's even possible that some might not be visible in the set of documents
displayed to choose from, when starting up with no file.

So another UI solution might to record the set of documents that were open just
before exit, and re-opening that same set?

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