[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 100530] Unable to access the menu with a screen reader

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 OS|Linux (All) |All

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 100530] Unable to access the menu with a screen reader

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   See Also||https://github.com/nvaccess
   ||/nvda/issues/6111

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Opened a ticket with NVDA project

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6111

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 100530] Unable to access the menu with a screen reader

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 CC||ja...@nvaccess.org,
   ||michael.me...@collabora.com

--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
@Michael, seem to have some significant accessibility issues with the
LibreOffice Online CollaboraCloudSute.  No discoverable navigation to the menu,
and toolbar and document canvas, the F6, F10 used by LO Desktop apps are held
by Browser.

Also, the multiline editable content of the document canvas is not being
resolved--at least by NVDA.

@Jamie, just checked using NVDA 2016.2.1 and no improvement. Is the LibreOffice
Online going to need its own module--I know it is not
Symphony/IAccessible2/MSAA based like the Desktop.  Has anyone from Collabora
touched base with you and Mic?

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Confirming - on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US with FireFox 47.0 and NVDA 2016.1

Took a moment and figured out Collabora's LibreOffice Online offer and
registered for a Collabora CloudSuite demo.

The GUI is OK, and mouse based navigation moves one to the menus, but during
editing found the edit cursor gets detached from its position on the canvas.

The listing of keyboard shorts does not provide any navigation between GUI
control elements, and I was unable to identify any.

Unfortunately, most of the GUI for the document canvas is not exposed as NVDA
accessible events with default modules--the content is uninteligible "blank".
NV Access may need to work with Collabora on a module.

If things are similar with Orca reader (expect that they are) at this point the
Collabora CloudSuite should be considered completely not accessible with
limited AT support--they have work to do.


Here are the currently listed Collabora CloudSuite keyboard shortcuts for
anyone interested.

Keyboard Shortcuts
General Keyboard Shortcuts
UndoCtrl + Z
RedoCtrl + Y
Cut Ctrl + X
Paste as unformatted text   Ctrl + Alt + Shift + V
Print (Download as PDF) Ctrl + P
Text formatting
BoldCtrl + B
Italic  Ctrl + I
Underline   Ctrl + U
Double UnderlineCtrl + D
Strikethrough   Ctrl + Alt + 5
Superscript Ctrl + Shift + P
Subscript   Ctrl + Shift + B
Remove direct formattingCtrl + M
Paragraph formatting
Align CenterCtrl + E
Align Left  Ctrl + L
Align Right Ctrl + R
Justify Ctrl + J
Apply Default paragraph style   Ctrl + 0
Apply Heading 1 paragraph style Ctrl + 1
Apply Heading 2 paragraph style Ctrl + 2
Apply Heading 3 paragraph style Ctrl + 3
Apply Heading 4 paragraph style Ctrl + 4
Apply Heading 5 paragraph style Ctrl + 5
Text selection and navigation in document
Select All  Ctrl + A
Move cursor to the left Arrow Left
Move cursor with selection to the left  Shift + Arrow Left
Go to beginning of a word   Ctrl + Arrow Left
Select to the left word by word Ctrl + Shift + Arrow Left
Move cursor to the rightArrow Right
Move cursor with selection to the right Shift + Arrow Right
Go to start of the next wordCtrl + Arrow Right
Select to the right word by wordCtrl + Shift + Arrow Right
Move cursor up one line Arrow Up
Select lines in upwards direction   Shift + Arrow Up
Move cursor to beginning of the previous paragraph  Ctrl + Arrow Up
Select to beginning of paragraphCtrl + Shift + Arrow Up
Move cursor down one line   Arrow Down
Select lines in downwards direction Shift + Arrow Down
Move cursor to beginning of the next paragraph  Ctrl + Arrow Down
Select to end of paragraph  Ctrl + Shift + Arrow Down
Go to beginning of line Home
Go and select to the beginning of a lineShift + Home
Go to start of document Ctrl + Home
Go and select text to start of document Ctrl + Shift + Home
Go to end of line   End
Go and select to the end of a line  Shift + End
Go to end of document   Ctrl + End
Go and select text to end of document   Ctrl + Shift + End
Move the view up one page   PageUp
Switch cursor between text and header   Ctrl + PageUp
Extend the selection up one pageShift + PageUp
Move the view down one page PageDown
Switch cursor between text and footer   Ctrl + PageDown
Extend the selection down one page  Shift + PageDown
Delete to beginning of word Ctrl + Backspace
Delete to end of word   Ctrl + Del
Delete to beginning of sentence Ctrl + Shift + Backspace
Delete to end of sentence   Ctrl + Shift + Del
Shortcut Keys for Tables
Ctrl + AIf the active cell is empty: selects the whole table.
Otherwise: selects the contents of the active cell. Pressing again selects the
entire table.
Ctrl + Home If the active cell is empty: goes to the beginning of the
table. Otherwise: first press goes to beginning of the active cell, second
press goes to beginning of the current table, third press goes to beginning of
document.
Ctrl + End  If the active cell is empty: goes to the end of the table.
Otherwise: first press goes to the end of the active cell, second press goes to
the end of the current table, third press goes to the end of the document.
Ctrl + Tab  Inserts a tab stop (only in tables). Depending on the Window
Manager in use, Alt + Tab may be used instead.
Alt + Arrow KeysIncreases/decreases the size of the column/row on the
right/bottom cell edge
Alt + Shift + 

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 100530] Unable to access the menu with a screen reader

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--- Comment #5 from Jean-Philippe MENGUAL  ---
Hi,

I tried myself and had the problem. Stuart, can you reproduce? Or is there
another way to open the menubar in this context?

Regards,

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--- Comment #4 from Alex ARNAUD  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> Kind of poorly worded. But maybe one of the regular Orca users will have
> some insight.

Dear MR. V Stuart Foote,

what do you expect ? I'm a regular Orca user, I use it everyday and I want to
contribute with the QA team.
I am hurt by your words because I'm trying to give you the most useful feedback
as possible.

Best regards.

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--- Comment #3 from Alex ARNAUD  ---
(In reply to Joanmarie Diggs from comment #2)
> How do you go to Collabora Online?

Dear Joanmarie,

You can go on Collabora online here :
https://www.collaboraoffice.com/solutions/collabora-cloudsuite/

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--- Comment #2 from Joanmarie Diggs  ---
How do you go to Collabora Online?

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   Keywords||accessibility
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Blocks||36549
 OS|All |Linux (All)

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Kind of poorly worded. But maybe one of the regular Orca users will have some
insight.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36549
[Bug 36549] ACCESSIBILITY: Tracking bug for issues affecting a11y ATK and GNOME
Orca screen reader support
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