[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 100930] The display order from Find All is confusing and inconsistent

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B.J. Herbison  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #16 from B.J. Herbison  ---
Thank you. The truncation is back (at least for small sheets), and the sorting
is back and useful.

Version: 7.2.2.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 02b2acce88a210515b4a5bb2e46cbfb63fe97d56
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to B.J. Herbison from comment #13)
> Is there a plan to add sorting back to the result list?

We do not plan the development. If a developer is interested s/he might pick
this easy task.

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--- Comment #13 from B.J. Herbison  ---
What I meant is that the "Sheet" column wouldn't just change the sheet order,
it would also change the row and column (and value) ordering within the sheet.
A stable sort based on "sheet" wouldn't change the relative order of cells
within the sheet.

Actually, a column containing Sheet4.$A$1 should be labeled "Reference" or
"Identifier" since the value isn't just a sheet identifier.

Is there a plan to add sorting back to the result list?

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--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to B.J. Herbison from comment #11)
> sorting by the Sheet column wouldn't be stable on the row and column results

Sorting order is:
S1.$A$1,S1.$A$2,S1.$B$1,S1.$B$2,S2.$A$1,S2.$A$2,S2.$B$1,S2.$B$2 - so it is
"stable" on row/column.

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--- Comment #11 from B.J. Herbison  ---
I would find separate columns more useful for single-sheet search results if
the sorting was added back to the search results.

For multiple sheets search results then sorting by the Sheet column wouldn't be
stable on the row and column results--my position is 1) it should be possible
to sort by sheet without otherwise changing row and column order in the search
results, and 2) if you sort on a sheet column that says Sheet4.$A$1 it should
sort on the full value of the column so the UI clearly reflects the sort order.

Just putting the index in the Col column would also be less readable if the
Tools/Options.../LibreOffice Calc/Formula/Formula Syntax setting was changed to
"Excel R1C1". There would be two columns with just number. I don't know whether
that would be a minor or significant confusion (and I don't use that setting).

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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
How about "Sheet" (with Sheet4.$A$1, Sheet4.$A$2...), "Row" (1,2...), and "Col"
(A,B...), "Content"?

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--- Comment #9 from B.J. Herbison  ---
Created attachment 155459
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=155459=edit
Initial sort with 6.3.3

The situation has changed with 6.3.3, but problems still exist.

The cell column was wide enough in every case I tested.

The initial sort order is not by row or by column which makes the results hard
to use for large result sets.

The ability to sort by column has gone away. This removes some of my reported
problems but is a major feature loss.

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--- Comment #7 from B.J. Herbison  ---
Many problems still exist with version 6.0.6.2. I will cover the state of each
issue I originally raised.

1) The unnecessary and inappropriate truncation of the Cell column is still a
problem.

2) The original sort situation seems to have fixed or improved as the sort
order was reasonable for every test I ran.

3) This also seems to be fixed.

4) Still a problem.

5) Sorts still aren't stable on Ubuntu.

First 6) I no longer see this problem.

Second 6) (sorry) Still a problem.

And the overall behavior doesn't meet the expectations I outlined.

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--- Comment #5 from B.J. Herbison  ---
The problem still exists with LibreOffice Version 5.4.1.2 on Ubuntu.

I didn't test every case I initially reported, but:
* The initial display cell order is still confusing.
* The single column sort by cell still puts A10 before A9.
* The Cell column is still truncated when first displayed.

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||tietze.he...@gmail.com
  Component|UI  |Calc
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Having a trustable sort is not questionable from the UX POV. 

Removing needsUXEval, component to Calc and NEW.

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[Bug 102847] [META] Quick Find, Search and Replace
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--- Comment #2 from B.J. Herbison  ---
Created attachment 126222
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sort3: Sort by Sheet then by Cell

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--- Comment #1 from B.J. Herbison  ---
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sort2: After sort by Cell

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