[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |philip...@hotmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #15 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
As the state of 'Show track changes' is saved in a document, there isnt a need
for such an option to be available for advanced users. So agree with others
that this is WONTFIX.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83
   ||958

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Blocks||83946


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83946
[Bug 83946] [META] Bugs for tracking changes
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #13)
> I proposed this be: "Make tracked changes visible when opening or saving"
> with: Show Changes, Note Changes, No Changes, As Saved in the Document. 
> (Note Changes will be a new bug).
> I received a feedback that is starting to make the whole thing too
> complicated for the user. 
> But I think average user doesn't have to change this, it's only for advanced
> users who want it. 
> Please comment.

What is the use case to not show tracked changes? I mean beyond a "it would be
nice" to have. The purpose of tracking changes is to show them to other
readers, and what Microsoft did caused 'funny' epic fails when previous
versions were shared in official documents.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #13 from Timur  ---
I proposed this be: "Make tracked changes visible when opening or saving" with:
Show Changes, Note Changes, No Changes, As Saved in the Document. 
(Note Changes will be a new bug).
I received a feedback that is starting to make the whole thing too complicated
for the user. 
But I think average user doesn't have to change this, it's only for advanced
users who want it. 
Please comment.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89
   ||991

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Timur  changed:

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 CC||gti...@gmail.com

--- Comment #12 from Timur  ---
This option can be set in MSO per https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/831771
in "Options-Trust Center-Trust Center Settings-Privacy Options-Make hidden
markup visible when opening or saving". 
I think it's checked by default. 
If that's what the reporter meant, I'm changing my mind on this, this could be
a valid request (although that should normally stay checked).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Gülşah Köse  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #11 from Gülşah Köse  ---
Thanks all of you for reporting your views. Changing it to WontFix

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
IMO that's a Bad Thing.

Instead of informing and educating users about this powerful workflow, and
providing them with handy tool to hide that as soon as they *decide* it's
unimportant to them now (like appropriately positioned and labeled
toolbar/sidebar button), this will (1) require (presumably inexperienced) users
to go to some options to turn it off, and (2) create new situations when two
parties that exchange information see different things and don't understand
each other; that will raise the need to teach those users how to turn it on
when needed.

If users know what this feature is for, it will not be uncomfortable for them
to press a button; if they don't know, then it will be bad for their document
exchange with original sender if they don't learn.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #9 from Gülşah Köse  ---
Sorry, i was wrong about MS Office hide tracking change. It can hide with "no
markup".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #8 from Gülşah Köse  ---
By the way there is no option for hiding all track changes on a docx file. For
hiding that changes you have to uncheck six checkbox. Please look at the
attchment. In practical that means all docx will came with show track change
option and and some users won't want to see them.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #7 from Gülşah Köse  ---
Created attachment 128840
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128840&action=edit
tracking change on MS 2013

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #6 from Gülşah Köse  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #5)
> (In reply to Gülşah Köse from comment #2)

> So currently, if the changes are shown or not is stored in the specific
> document.
> 
> And you suggest that a user can overrule that with a global setting, and
> then when that setting is set to 'hide' and a document is opened that has
> tracked changes visible, there is a popup, informing the user.

Yes

> 
> Then I think that when the setting is set to hide, and a document doesn't
> show the tracked changes, and when the user chooses Edit > Track changes >
> Show, that same popup appears?

Edit > Track changes > Show will work normally. Any popup appears. That option
should set the first time opening preferences that file. After that user can
show or hide tracking changes normally.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Gülşah Köse from comment #2)

> It should be default "show" i think too. But to prevent that you say, we can
> show info message for 1 2 seconds like as "that document includes changes
> ..."

So currently, if the changes are shown or not is stored in the specific
document.

And you suggest that a user can overrule that with a global setting, and then
when that setting is set to 'hide' and a document is opened that has tracked
changes visible, there is a popup, informing the user.

Then I think that when the setting is set to hide, and a document doesn't show
the tracked changes, and when the user chooses Edit > Track changes > Show,
that same popup appears?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also|https://bugs.documentfounda |
   |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89 |
   |991,|
   |https://bugs.documentfounda |
   |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94 |
   |832 |

--- Comment #4 from Timur  ---
In my view, this doesn't make sense and should be WontFix.
Removing bugs from See Also, not related.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #3 from Gülşah Köse  ---
In my Opinion Tools->Options->LibreOffice->Accessibility->Miscellaneous Options
is suitable place to add that option.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

--- Comment #2 from Gülşah Köse  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #1)
Hi Cor,

> So you mean in Writer, not in Calc.
yes, i mean writer.

> Then the result will be that if someone sends a file with tracked changes,
> that you won't notice.. I'm not sure if  that a safe way to work..
> Adding ux-advice in CC

It should be default "show" i think too. But to prevent that you say, we can
show info message for 1 2 seconds like as "that document includes changes ..."

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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  Component|LibreOffice |Writer
Version|5.3.0.0.alpha1+ Master  |Inherited From OOo

--- Comment #1 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Gülsah,

(In reply to Gülşah Köse from comment #0)
> It would be nice we can provide an option to users for selecting their
> general preferens about show or hide tracking info when they open a file.
> (docx,odt ...)

So you mean in Writer, not in Calc.

> When no choice is made, users will always be uncomfortable to close by hand.

Then the result will be that if someone sends a file with tracked changes, that
you won't notice.. I'm not sure if  that a safe way to work..
Adding ux-advice in CC

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104006] TRACK CHANGES: Needed an option provides "never don' t show tracking info" when open a file.

2016-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104006

Gülşah Köse  changed:

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 CC||gulsah.1...@gmail.com
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89
   ||991,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94
   ||832

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