[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106195] Change docs to explain how to remove direct formatting.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106195] Change docs to explain how to remove direct formatting.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106195] Change docs to explain how to remove direct formatting.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106195] Change docs to explain how to remove direct formatting.

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--- Comment #5 from Jim Avera  ---
> B & N are not Direct Formatting.
Ok, that may be true internally, but must users be forced to know that? 

Bullets & Numbering are in the *Format* menu, I think for obvious reasons (they
change the "format" of how paragraphs are displayed).

"Clear All Direct Formatting" should mean "Remove the effects of all formatting
 applied directly to a paragraph rather than to a style".  Intuitively this
means everything in the *Format* menu. 

If this is impractical (to make "All Direct Formatting" mean undo everything in
the Format menu including B), then please please write clearly in the docs
how to remove all other things which can override a paragraph's style.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106195] Change docs to explain how to remove direct formatting.

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--- Comment #4 from Octavio Alvarez  ---
Bullets and numbering overrides paragraph styles. Also, B & N are not Direct
Formatting.

Exporting to Flat and reviewing the .fodt:


 Why does this paragraph have a negativew first-line indent when
the Style does not specify any indenting and “Clear Direct Formatting” has been
applied?


This means this paragraph is also a list item even if we don't notice. It
effectively it does *not* have any direct formatting applied.

If you switch to List Styles, the paragraph is set to the WW8Num1 list style,
which has a 0.30 inch indent. If hit Enter at the end of the paragraph and hit
Tab before typing, the cursor won't move but the indent will be set to 0.40,
consistenyl with the WW8Num1 definition for level 2 items. Paragraph formatting
will be set accordingly.

Being a WW8Num1 style, this file was imported from Word.

If I click twice on the "bullets" toolbar icon, the paragraph loses its
List-Item status, behaving as expected. (Sometimes this works, sometimes this
doesn't work)

So far, this seems to be the culprit and behavior is working as expected
because the indents come from the list style. That said:

 * Compared with the native List 1 list style, a paragraph with List 1 *has*
its visual indication set on the toolbar, but WW8Num1 does not.

* If I edit List 1 and set Customize » Number: None (instead of Bullet) then a
List 1 item won't have the toolbar shown as pressed anymore! This is a bug, as
the paragraph is a list item even if it has a None numbering type.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106195] Change docs to explain how to remove direct formatting.

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--- Comment #3 from Olivier Hallot  ---
Confirmed. 

Clear Direct Formatting applies to some properties but not to all of them. A
more precise description is needed *or* a specific bug open for the properties
not cleared, *if* that constitutes a valid bug.

For example, a § direct formatting property "Alignment" is cleared but not
"Indenting".

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--- Comment #2 from Buovjaga  ---
Olivier: you are an expert on cleaning up formatting. What do you think about
this?

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--- Comment #1 from Jim Avera  ---
Created attachment 131472
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demo.odt

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