[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106421] Help article 02010000.xhp -- notation of "Apply Style" should read "Set Paragraph Style"

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106421] Help article 02010000.xhp -- notation of "Apply Style" should read "Set Paragraph Style"

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--- Comment #8 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5)
> Or we could make it neutral and remove the action verb to read "Paragraph
> Style" as with the font and color controls--and the tool-tip/extended
> tool-tip could be adjusted for that. 

Stupid me, i think we must have had this discussion before as we changed it
from "Apply Paragraph Style" in 5.1 to "Set Paragraph Style". Removing the verb
would be a step back in my view, as i've been adding them to as many tooltips
as possible.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106421] Help article 02010000.xhp -- notation of "Apply Style" should read "Set Paragraph Style"

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--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 132783
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The tool-tip and Help articles for the Formatting toolbar paragraph style
control

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106421] Help article 02010000.xhp -- notation of "Apply Style" should read "Set Paragraph Style"

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--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 132782
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The tool-tip and Help articles for the Formatting toolbar paragraph style
control

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106421] Help article 02010000.xhp -- notation of "Apply Style" should read "Set Paragraph Style"

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--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 132781
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The tool-tip for the Formatting toolbar paragraph style drop list control

Attaching clips so the issue needing attention is clear. Image shows both the
tool-tip from the .xcu and the extended tip from the .xhp

The role of the drop list is modal, it shows what is in use but also what would
be applied. So believe either action verb is correct. I am neutral as long as
it is consistent.

Or we could make it neutral and remove the action verb to read "Paragraph
Style" as with the font and color controls--and the tool-tip/extended tool-tip
could be adjusted for that. 

The "Set Paragraph Style" tool-tip was assigned in source with:

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/WriterCommands.xcu#2889

While the extended tool-tip with the old "Apply Style" annotation is picked up
from the .xhp Help articles noted.

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #3)
> @Stuart, @Foote, @Heiko: Is 'Set' or 'Apply' better for the tooltip?

As a non-native speaker the term "set" sounds to me like changing properties
(German: "ändern") and "apply" to make it effective (German: "anwenden"). So my
take is "Apply paragraph style" (title style capitalization makes no sense in
tooltips).

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--- Comment #3 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #0)
> Additionally not clear that an UNO command still exists for the
> .uno:StyleApplyState stanza linked to this help article. If not, that should
> probably be removed.

The UNO command is available but isnt used anywhere but
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sfx2/sdi/sfx.sdi#4240

@Stuart, @Foote, @Heiko: Is 'Set' or 'Apply' better for the tooltip? It would
be good to get a set of words that we stick to when writing descriptive
tooltips, so they are consistent everywhere.

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--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> It looks like just the article needs to be adjusted, but the help
> image--img_id3152801, "zellvor.png"--has not been correct, i.e. matched the
> tooltip, for some time. Rather than its Apply Style label it should also
> read Set Paragraph Style.

Sorry, the zellvor.png image is fine--just shows Default from the combo box
list. Just the text label needs a tweak.

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--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The referring Help main for the two sections in the 0201.xhp article is the
Formatting Bar entry: 
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/help/source/text/swriter/main0202.xhp#38

It looks like just the article needs to be adjusted, but the help
image--img_id3152801, "zellvor.png"--has not been correct, i.e. matched the
tooltip, for some time. Rather than its Apply Style label it should also read
Set Paragraph Style.

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