[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106507] Small enhancement to bullet formatting toolbar: Add 4 more default bullet types

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106507] Small enhancement to bullet formatting toolbar: Add 4 more default bullet types

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> With the Format -> Bullets and Numbering dialog the Bullet tab (along with
> Numbering, Outline) currently holds 8 sample tiles at a "page" layout ratio
> showing 3 bulleted samples.

Different characters for bullets can be entered at the customization tab. But
the default, better called "quick selection", remains as it is. That's awkward
since we do not want to predetermine a certain look and feel. So my suggestion
would be to rework this dialog and have a selection/modification approach
similar to what we did at the area fill style. (Would bet there is a ticket for
this idea.)

Anyway, I like the “Halbgeviertstrich” since it contributes to the
typographical standardization.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106507] Small enhancement to bullet formatting toolbar: Add 4 more default bullet types

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--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Gerry from comment #5)
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> Do I understand correctly that you wouldn't see a technical problem with the
> addition of the four more default bullet types to the bullet split button of
> the formatting toolbar?
> 
> But, as you describe, the problem you describe appears in the Format ->
> Bullets and Numbering dialog. Wouldn't it be possible to add a vertical
> scrollbar to the bullet tab in that dialog to cater for the four new bullet
> types? You find such a vertical scrollbar in the Format -> Bullets and
> Numbering -> Image tab. Would that be a solution?

Sure, we could refactor from a fixed list of 8 styles, and change the
dimensions of the tiles for Bullet, and add a scroll bar if there were more
than one additional row.

But we'd have to deal with providing tooltips.  The Image selection  simply
links to path for the SVG/GIF/PNG extracted from the LO share\Gallery

As is, tool tips for the existing are a mess, current check Mark bullets shows
the "✗" Ballot X (U+2717), while Tick mark bullets shows the "✔" Heavy Check
Mark (U+2714).

I'm just not sure that we gain anything, some simple corrections here (even add
your preferred U+2013 EN DASH to the Tick mark default) rather that complete
refactoring just to add another row.

=-ref-=
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svx/source/dialog/svxbmpnumvalueset.src#22

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--- Comment #5 from Gerry  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)

Thanks a lot Stuart for looking into the bug and for the technical description.

Do I understand correctly that you wouldn't see a technical problem with the
addition of the four more default bullet types to the bullet split button of
the formatting toolbar?

But, as you describe, the problem you describe appears in the Format -> Bullets
and Numbering dialog. Wouldn't it be possible to add a vertical scrollbar to
the bullet tab in that dialog to cater for the four new bullet types? You find
such a vertical scrollbar in the Format -> Bullets and Numbering -> Image tab.
Would that be a solution?

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--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Not a fan as presented.

With the Format -> Bullets and Numbering dialog the Bullet tab (along with
Numbering, Outline) currently holds 8 sample tiles at a "page" layout ratio
showing 3 bulleted samples.

Because we would not change the dimensions of the Dialog, the layout for the
Bullets tab would have to be adjusted to fit more than 8 samples in the same
frame. This is how the Image/Linked graphic tab is configured.

So the Bullets tab of the dialog could be changed to add an extra rows of 4 as
in the Image tab, perhaps also including a button action for selecting and
sizing a glyph via the Special Character dialog.

But, as the dialog functions now, any one sample tile and corresponding style
can be adjusted from the Customize dialog (either bullets, numbering, outline
or Image/linked graphic).

So this is strictly a request to change the default 8 tiles to having more
bullet styles show--it is not a functional requirement as you can already
customize the bullet style once applied to use any glyph(s) from any font.

As an aside, the glyphs for the currently displayed bullets are all draw from
OpenSymbol font not Cantarell. And when customizing bullets the Special
Character dialog should be opening to OpenSymbol--but is incorrectly opening to
a system font (Segoe UI in my case on Windows 10). Just opened see also bug
106515

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http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svx/source/dialog/svxbmpnumvalueset.cxx#379

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--- Comment #3 from Gerry  ---
Created attachment 131828
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.odt with Four new default bullet types (Writer document)

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--- Comment #2 from Gerry  ---
Created attachment 131827
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PDF of four new default bullet types (export from Writer .odt)

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--- Comment #1 from Gerry  ---
Small correction to bug description:

The Unicode code of the third suggested bullet type should be U+25B8 (and NOT
U+25BA)!

The default font "Cantarell" for lists in LibreOffice supports the unicode
character U+25B8.

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