[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #8 from Gérard Talbot  ---
> Range require an hyphen
> "-" (but the helpfile is actually using another character, not an hyphen)


> I verified this very carefully with a real document and a printer connected
> and there is an error in that document. There is a dash (em dash or figure
> dash) inside "1–4" while there is an hyphen inside "1-4". LibreOffice Writer
> will not accept a dash but will accept the hyphen. When I inputted 1–4 in
> the input text box, the miniature page on its lefthand side indicated
> "Aucune page" that you can translate into "No page".
> (...)
> This issue, I think, should be in a bug report by
> itself.

I have filed bug 107219 for this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #7 from Gérard Talbot  ---
(In reply to Gérard Talbot from comment #3)
> I went to 
> 
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
> 
> and then downloaded the document GS52-GettingStartedLO.odt (21 Mega-Bytes)
> and this is what they say (in chapter 10, section Controlling printing, page
> 293, subsection Selecting pages/sheets/slides to print in Writer)

Also

http://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/GS5.2/ODT/GS5210-PrintExportEmail.odt

if you want to view, download chapter 10 only.

> "
> Printing a range of pages:
>  1) Choose File > Print from the Menu bar, or press Ctrl+P.
>  2) On the Print dialog, select the range of pages to print.
> a) In the Range and copies section of the General page, select the Pages
> option.
> b) Enter the sequence numbers of the pages to print (for example, 1–4 or
> 1,3,7,11).
> "

I verified this very carefully with a real document and a printer connected and
there is an error in that document. There is a dash (em dash or figure dash)
inside "1–4" while there is an hyphen inside "1-4". LibreOffice Writer will not
accept a dash but will accept the hyphen. When I inputted 1–4 in the input text
box, the miniature page on its lefthand side indicated "Aucune page" that you
can translate into "No page".

Later in that same document, same chapter, in the Impress and Draw subsection,
we can read this:

"
Printing a range of slides:
 1) Choose File > Print from the Menu bar, or press Ctrl+P.
 2) Select the slides to print.
a) In the Range and copies section of the Print dialog, select the Slides
option.
b) Enter the slide numbers to print (for example 1-4 or 1,3,7,11).
"
and now, we see an hyphen! This issue, I think, should be in a bug report by
itself.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #6 from Gérard Talbot  ---
> If you select the option "pages", set the cursor into the field and press
> Ctrl+F1, you will *not* get the extended tip if info-balloon
> (Tools/Options.../LibreOffice/General/Help/Info-balloon) is unchecked.

I did more research and Shift+F1 will indeed display extended tip even if
(Tools/Options.../LibreOffice/General/Help/Extended Tip) is unchecked:

https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Turning_Extended_Tips_On_and_Off

- - - - - - -

Regina, this must be your webpage:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Regina/HelpAuthoringDashboard

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #5 from Gérard Talbot  ---
> Range require an hyphen "-" (but the helpfile is actually using another 
> character, not an hyphen)

Hyphen is U+002D (-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen-minus
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/002D/index.htm
but the helpfile seems to be using a figure dash U+2012 (‒)
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2012/index.htm
or even an em dash U+2014 (—)
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2014/index.htm

Sorry if I seem to be nitpicking here but this is exactly the kind of small
(even imperceptible) detail (grain of sand) that create a failure and can
actually make user experience bad.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #4 from Gérard Talbot  ---
Created attachment 132623
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=132623&action=edit
Small screenshot of 2-5,7,11 example

> I would add a screen shot similar to 1370030148857273.png but
> considerably smaller where we would see 2-5,7,11 in the input text control.

12.4 Kilo-bytes, 373px wide by 201px tall

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #3 from Gérard Talbot  ---
I went to 

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

and then downloaded the document GS52-GettingStartedLO.odt (21 Mega-Bytes) and
this is what they say (in chapter 10, section Controlling printing, page 293,
subsection Selecting pages/sheets/slides to print in Writer)

"
Printing a range of pages:
 1) Choose File > Print from the Menu bar, or press Ctrl+P.
 2) On the Print dialog, select the range of pages to print.
a) In the Range and copies section of the General page, select the Pages
option.
b) Enter the sequence numbers of the pages to print (for example, 1–4 or
1,3,7,11).
"

I think that quoted text could be a bit improved. Range require an hyphen "-"
(but the helpfile is actually using another character, not an hyphen) and
non-contiguous pages require a comma (or semicolon?). And pages to print can
define both a range and a list of contiguous pages.

"
Printing a range of pages:
 1) Choose File > Print from the Menu bar, or press Ctrl+P.
 2) On the Print dialog, select the range of pages to print.
a) In the Range and copies section of the General page, select the Pages
option.
b) If you want to print a range of pages, then use a hyphen ("-") between the
first and last. For example, 2-5 will print only pages 2, 3, 4 and 5 only. 
If you want to print a list of non-contiguous pages, then use a comma (",") to
separate each pages. For example, 7,11 will print only pages 7 and 11. 
If you want to print a range a pages and a list of non-contiguous pages, then
combine both. For example, 2-5,7,11 will print only pages 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 and 11.
"

and I would add a screen shot similar to 1370030148857273.png but considerably
smaller where we would see 2-5,7,11 in the input text control.

Also, I think the helpfiles everywhere should mention that both comma and
semicolon can be used to separate sub-sequence of pages. Otherwise, one of the
2 should be dropped.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

--- Comment #2 from Gérard Talbot  ---
> If you select the option "pages", set the cursor into the field and press
> Ctrl+F1, you get the extended tip:
> 
> To print a range of pages, use a format like 3-6. To print single pages, use
> a format like 7;9;11. You can print a combination of page ranges and single
> pages, by using a format like 3-6;8;10;12.

Regina,

If you select the option "pages", set the cursor into the field and press
Ctrl+F1, you will *not* get the extended tip if info-balloon
(Tools/Options.../LibreOffice/General/Help/Info-balloon) is unchecked.
Additionally, if info-balloon is unchecked, then hovering the mouse over the
info-balloon label (and its checkbox) will not reveal, will not disclose the
contextual help text about how useful/helpful this info-balloon can be (maybe
this should be a bug by itself).

I do get the extended help, contextual help if/when I have info-balloon checked
and when my mouse cursor hovers over the pages input text box (without
Ctrl+F1).

Regarding info-balloon, the local help files state: "Pour afficher un
infoballon, appuyez sur Maj+F1 et pointez vers un bouton ou une commande."
which I can translate to:
"To display an info-balloon, press Shift+F1 and point to a button or command."
No mention of Ctrl+F1. I just tried Shift+F1 and it works: the cursor changes
from a white arrow into a white arrow with a question mark ("?") on its
righthand side and a contextual, extended help text is displayed when hovering
text labels and/or form controls.

Please note that ";" (semicolon) is used in the extended tip while I
successfully use "," (comma).


> That is HID: hid/.HelpID:vcl:PrintDialog:PageRange:Edit
> 
> Cursor in field and Ctrl+F1 is the usual way to get the extended tip of a
> field.

I did not know of Ctrl+F1. I never thought of using Ctrl+F1.

- - - - - - -

Regina,

Just to be clear... my bug report is not formally looking for answers or
assistance,... although I appreciate your Ctrl+F1 feedback. I am for tuning,
updating or adding current local help files (via F1) if some useful explanation
is missing.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

Regina Henschel  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #1 from Regina Henschel  ---
If you select the option "pages", set the cursor into the field and press
Ctrl+F1, you get the extended tip:

To print a range of pages, use a format like 3-6. To print single pages, use a
format like 7;9;11. You can print a combination of page ranges and single
pages, by using a format like 3-6;8;10;12.

That is HID: hid/.HelpID:vcl:PrintDialog:PageRange:Edit

Cursor in field and Ctrl+F1 is the usual way to get the extended tip of a
field.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107192] How to print a few non-contiguous pages from a multi-pages document

2017-04-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107192

Olivier Hallot  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Blocks||80430
 Ever confirmed|0   |1


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80430
[Bug 80430] [META] LOCALHELP: Features x Documentation gap
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