[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107554
Bug 107554 depends on bug 99027, which changed state.

Bug 99027 Summary: [FORMATTING] Default table border width is useless
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99027

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #14 from BogdanB  ---
I tested now a default table and all are 0,10 cm.
Consider fixed.


Version: 6.3.0.0.beta1
Build ID: a187af327633f5f00363be5131bd21a13e0f1a7b
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; 
Locale: ro-RO (ro_RO.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #12)
> Heiko, this enh is fixed or not?

Don't think so as the OP, Jay, didn't finish. But he retired and therefore the
request is obsolete. Let's close the ticket.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #12 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
Heiko, this enh is fixed or not?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
So i ran a twitter poll[1] asking 'How much cell padding/margins should text
have in tables?' and there were 102 votes - 0.10cm (70%), 0.14cm (16%), 0.20cm
(14%), 0.18cm (1%).

[1] https://mobile.twitter.com/liboDesign/status/927892971042889728

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #9 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #7)
> Jay, 
> 
> SvxBoxItem has the SetDistance method which can be used to set inward
> distances individually.
> 
> ex.  aBox.SetDistance(110, SvxBoxItemLine::LEFT)

Thanks Jim. Will use it when a final decision is made on the spacing.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #8 from Commit Notification 
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Yousuf Philips committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=0ba318b895c164750dc3c7bac6948b04b606f2b8

tdf#107554 New default table style

It will be available in 6.0.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #7 from Jim Raykowski  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #6)
> Patch is in without the adjustment of the cell padding
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/44363
> 
> If the cell padding is to be changed, i could change it for all sides, but a
> real dev would have to change it if it needs different values for different
> sides.
> 
> Jim: code pointer :D

Jay, 

SvxBoxItem has the SetDistance method which can be used to set inward distances
individually.

ex.  aBox.SetDistance(110, SvxBoxItemLine::LEFT)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #6 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Patch is in without the adjustment of the cell padding
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/44363

If the cell padding is to be changed, i could change it for all sides, but a
real dev would have to change it if it needs different values for different
sides.

Jim: code pointer :D

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #5 from andreas_k  ---
left/right 0.20 cm
top/bottom 0.10 cm

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The units are 0.10 / 0.14 / 0.20cm etc. I would keep 0.10cm (or use WordPrefect
with more left/right marings) because tables are usually a compact layout of
data, at least for the academic purpose. In case of a stylish layout
(blue/green/red/yellow box) it makes sense to have more room like Calligra's
0.18cm.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #3 from Cor Nouws  ---
Created attachment 137570
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=137570=edit
demo test file with various examples

I would choose for WordPerfect – 0,21cm  (not 21 cm)
Looks best. But then "synchronize" should be off by default ;)
Word is ugly. LibreOffice current is fine. iWork pages too.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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--- Comment #2 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
iWork Pages cell spacing - 14cm

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
So the default table style isnt stored in the autotbl.fmt file but is stored in
code[1], so we need to modify this style to appear similar to what tables
normally appear like when they are inserted, but with better defaults.

So borders should be on and have a line width of 0.5pt (bug 99027).

The only thing remaining is to decide on what the best cell padding (aka
margins) should be. Here is the comparison.

LibreOffice, Softmaker - 10cm
Calligra, Google - 18cm
Word - 19cm (left, right) and 0cm (top, bottom)
WordPerfect - 21cm (top, left, right) and 10cm (bottom)

Heiko, Stuart, Andreas, Cor, Regina: What is your preference?

[1]
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/source/core/doc/tblafmt.cxx#1226


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99027
[Bug 99027] [FORMATTING] Default table border width is useless
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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LeMoyne Castle  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107555
[Bug 107555] Apply the 'Default Style' table style to newly inserted tables
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'

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