[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107555] Apply the 'Default Style' table style to newly inserted tables

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--- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The request is to "apply the 'Default Style' table style". We have a lot of
patches and I'd expect it to be solved. Regarding c15, Default means DF, is
contrary to the request (no table style at all would fix the c15-issue). We
cannot have "empty" table styles, yet. This needs bug 49437 to be fixed.

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--- Comment #19 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #18)
> It's unclear to me what UX/design can contribute here.

But who can find a good solution for that (see comment 15), if not the
design-team?

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--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #17)
> Heiko, if you discuss this topic in meeting Design Team to come to a
> decision (I don't know, if this is the plan), you might also take into
> account, that there is a similar problem with lists (see bug 139693 comment
> 2)

It's unclear to me what UX/design can contribute here. When it comes to lists
you can for sure ask to remove the list with clear DF (it's an attribute of the
paragraph direct formatting). In case of tables I'd prefer some PS for the
content over any DF.

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--- Comment #17 from Dieter  ---
Heiko, if you discuss this topic in meeting Design Team to come to a decision
(I don't know, if this is the plan), you might also take into account, that
there is a similar problem with lists (see bug 139693 comment 2)

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--- Comment #16 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #15)
> Dieter, Hieko, and all interested in finding a good solution for this, 
> 
> Currently when a table is inserted using either the Insert Table dialog or
> the Insert Table control button, "Default Style" autoformat is used only as
> a template to create the table and is not assigned the autoformat "Default
> Style".

The change of Default style template this will perhaps reduce confusion (bug
124206).

> This provides for user direct formatting not being replaced when
> rows are inserted

Actual there's a different behaviour, depending if you mark a whole row or just
put the cursor in a cell (see bug 126008).


> This could be
> extended to all autoformat styles by  adding a check box in the Insert Table
> dialog to use the table style as a template or as an autoformat. Maybe this
> will cause more confusion.

I'm not sure, if the majority of the users are aware about the differences
between template and autoformat (I also learnt something from your explanation,
Jim). So I also think, this could cause more confusion.

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--- Comment #15 from Jim Raykowski  ---
Dieter, Hieko, and all interested in finding a good solution for this, 

Currently when a table is inserted using either the Insert Table dialog or the
Insert Table control button, "Default Style" autoformat is used only as a
template to create the table and is not assigned the autoformat "Default
Style". This provides for user direct formatting not being replaced when rows
are inserted or deleted or when the document is reopened. This could be
extended to all autoformat styles by  adding a check box in the Insert Table
dialog to use the table style as a template or as an autoformat. Maybe this
will cause more confusion.

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--- Comment #14 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #13)
> A lot of confusion around
> the topic anyway.

I agree. What might be strategies to reduce this confusion?

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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #12)
> Jim, what happen with tis bug
> 
> cc: Heiko, with regard to bug 124206: Should bug 107555 be changed to
> WONTFIX? (But perhaps I don't understand all)

Bug 124206: Change "Default" to "Plain" (just the table style name) in order to
have later a default style that takes over formats from the currently used
paragraph style (see also bug 104389, which is a WF, bug 107606, and also bug
117489 expecting the opposite). The switch from binary to xml format is
requested in bug 49437.

We can keep this alive for later or close as WF. A lot of confusion around the
topic anyway.

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--- Comment #12 from Dieter Praas  ---
Jim, what happen with tis bug

cc: Heiko, with regard to bug 124206: Should bug 107555 be changed to WONTFIX?
(But perhaps I don't understand all)

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Bug 107555 depends on bug 107554, which changed state.

Bug 107554 Summary: New table 'Default Style'
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107554

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--- Comment #11 from Dieter Praas  ---
I think this is fixed, but I'm not sure.

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--- Comment #10 from Commit Notification 
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Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-6-0-3":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=55a27458831d1a7d203479c9d713d2f3e57c25a4=libreoffice-6-0-3

tdf#115573 Revert: tdf#107555 Apply 'Default Style' table style

It will be available in 6.0.3.

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Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-6-0":

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tdf#115573 Revert: tdf#107555 Apply 'Default Style' table style

It will be available in 6.0.4.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
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--- Comment #8 from Ljiljan  ---
At the moment, this solution is causing many difficulties in working with
tables.

Inserting a new row or column will cause all custom changes to the table (bold,
italic, etc...) to change to the default style.  And since it is not possible
to modify styles, I suggest to remove this feature... default style should not
be applied to a new table, or it should but after we address all these bugs and
offer the possibility to modify existing styles. 

Currently, it is not possible to de-select default or any other style applied
to the table, so unless you are completely happy with the list of existing
styles (which is a rare occasion), working with the table is not intuitive and
will cause many difficulties to new and existing users.

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--- Comment #7 from Commit Notification 
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Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue.
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tdf#115573 Revert: tdf#107555 Apply 'Default Style' table style

It will be available in 6.1.0.

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Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue.
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tdf#107555 Apply 'Default Style' table style to newly inserted tables

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Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue.
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tdf#107555 Apply 'Default Style' table style to newly inserted tables

It will be available in 6.1.0.

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[Bug 113558] Replace 'AutoFormat' button with table style listbox in insert
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--- Comment #4 from Jim Raykowski  ---
Here is a link to a patch for this

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/44147/

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--- Comment #3 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Hi Jim,

When inserting a table through the dialog, a user can choose which table style
to assign to it (bug 113558). When inserting it through the toolbar table group
button, it should always be inserted with the 'Default Style' table style
assigned to it and the user can change the style afterwards.

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[Bug 113558] Replace 'AutoFormat' button with table style listbox in insert
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--- Comment #2 from Jim Raykowski  ---
Hi Jay,

So currently when a table is inserted, without setting the style to 'Default
Style' in the AutoFormat dialog, no style is used by default.

We want to have 'Default Style' used unless another style, including 'None', is
selected in the AutoFormat dialog.

Am I on the right track here? If so, other than a bit of a sticky spot with the
'None' style, it's working.

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Jim: Do you have time to take this on?

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34388
[Bug 34388] CONFIGURATION option to set border width in default (new) table
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107555] Apply the 'Default Style' table style to newly inserted tables

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107555

LeMoyne Castle  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||107554


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107554
[Bug 107554] New table 'Default Style'
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 107555] Apply the 'Default Style' table style to newly inserted tables

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107555

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

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