[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108015] Using Ctrl + Shift + B and Ctrl + Shift + I for Emphasis and Strong Emphasis character styles (and change Super/Subscript keyboard shortcuts)

2021-01-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108015

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda |mikekagan...@hotmail.com
   |tion.org|
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

While the idea is tempting, the character style Strong Emphasis is not
necessarily bold and could be anything else (see also bug 136686 comment 8).
Therefore the association with direct formatting is misleading.
Alt+Shift+ might be better but that's something for the user to customize.

Changing the super- and subscript shortcuts sounds dangerous since not every
keyboard layout has the equal sign at hand (on the German layout it's shift+0).
Using the comma seems to be okay but might also not be available. And there is
no need to block shortcuts with functions- removing features is always way
harder than adding some.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 108015] Using Ctrl + Shift + B and Ctrl + Shift + I for Emphasis and Strong Emphasis character styles (and change Super/Subscript keyboard shortcuts)

2021-01-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108015

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
Summary|Using Ctrl + Shift + B and  |Using Ctrl + Shift + B and
   |Ctrl + Shift + I for|Ctrl + Shift + I for
   |Emphasis and Strong |Emphasis and Strong
   |Emphasis character styles   |Emphasis character styles
   ||(and change Super/Subscript
   ||keyboard shortcuts)
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #2 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Counter proposal:

Alt+Shift+S  - Strong Emphasis
Alt+Shift+E  - Emphasis

Reasons:

1.  Strong and Emphasis are supposed to be "semantic" rather than visual. By
not using B and I (as proposed here), it does not offer a false and easy
confusion between formatting (visual appearance) and character style.
2. S and E are easy mnemonics to remember. 
3. Both keys are not currently used in the "default" configuration.
4. Do not require changing existing definitions.
5. (these key combinations may be achievable with one hand on some keyboards.)
6. Ctrl+Shift+E is a problematic combination in gtk. / Ctrl+Shift+S already
used.


About sub- and superscripts (even though I have learned the existing
definitions, it is probably a good thing to seek an easier combination)

Proposal:

Ctrl+Shift+,  - superscript
Ctrl+,- subscript

Reasons:

1. are available, do not require changing other shortcuts
2. both use comma  (do not have to remember which key is sub/superscript)
3. Shift should indicate superscript (mnemonic)
4. comma is probably easily accessible in most keyboard layouts.
5. Ctrl+Shift+ +/- are not offered as possible shortcut keys
6. "equal" requires a shift in some keyboard layouts

(added this topic to bug summary)

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