[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 113939] double underline - inconsistent shortcut across components

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 113939] double underline - inconsistent shortcut across components

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--- Comment #15 from Tad Whiteside  ---
Version: 7.0.1.2

Bug still present (ie inconsistent way of getting double underline across
libreoffice applications)

I originally reported this because I use Calc to generate accounting reports.
I'm US-based, so the double underline is a common format in accounting
documents.

Multi-language/culture/operating system - It's a tricky problem.

Perhaps the alt+ for double underline (since
shift+ is underline).

Thanks for the hard work.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 113939] double underline - inconsistent shortcut across components

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 113939] double underline - inconsistent shortcut across components

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--- Comment #13 from Gabor Kelemen  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12)
> (In reply to Tad Whiteside from comment #11)
> > How about short-cut key "Ctrl+Shift+D"
> 
> Don't like it as you have to remember another key. But ctrl/cmd+alt+U could
> work.

Ctrl+Alt+U would create another problem like those in bug #107244 for certain
keyboard localizations...
For example in Hungarian on Windows that creates this character: €

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--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Tad Whiteside from comment #11)
> How about short-cut key "Ctrl+Shift+D"

Don't like it as you have to remember another key. But ctrl/cmd+alt+U could
work.

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--- Comment #11 from Tad Whiteside  ---
Bug still present in 6.1.5.1



How about short-cut key "Ctrl+Shift+D"

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 113939] double underline - inconsistent shortcut across components

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|easyHack, needsDevEval  |

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|NEW
   Assignee|tietze.he...@gmail.com  |libreoffice-b...@lists.free
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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Shift+ctrl+U cannot work since it interferes with ctrl+U, see bug 114010
(containing link to the preliminary patch).

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 Depends on|114010  |
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |desktop.org |

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Patch has been submitted but for some reason it doesn't work. Question is if
shift+ctrl+U should still be used since Gnome takes this shortcut for the
unicode input.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114010
[Bug 114010] Interfering shortcuts for underline / double underline
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||114010


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114010
[Bug 114010] Interfering shortcuts for underline / double underline
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the idea in the design meeting and think consistency is paramount.
Therefore double underline should be available in all modules, however with a
consistent shortcut where shift+ctrl+U is a good option.

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--- Comment #3 from cson...@halmai.hu ---

I can imagine that a hotkey like Ctrl+ is more needed for a function
#1 in one application while the same hotkey is more beneficial for function #2
in another application. 

Different applications have different purposes and the simple fact that both of
app#1 and app#2 are capable to do something, it doesn't mean that those
functionalities are identically important in those applications and it means
even less that the same hotkey should be used.

Thus, I don't think we should obey the same hotkey => same functionality rule.



The question here is that is the double underline functionality such a widely
used one that it should have the same hot key or it is not. 

In my experience, it is a very rarely used formatting so I don't think I will
ever need it. If somebody does then they still can change the keyboard in Tool
=> Customize => Keyboard.


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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||philip...@hotmail.com
 Blocks||98259

--- Comment #2 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
If we want to have a shortcut for double underline, then it would be ideal to
have it consistent across the apps, so if shift+ctrl+U is free in all modules,
then that seems like a good choice to use.

Just as a note, i havent found any word processor that has a shortcut for
double underline.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98259
[Bug 98259] [META] Keyboard shortcuts and accelerators bugs and enhancements
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Impress, Draw, Calc, and Writer uses Ctrl+U for Underline (single). 

In Writer ctrl+D is defined as Underline:Double.
Calc uses this shortcut for Fill Down (Underline:Double is empty).
Impress/Draw do not provide direct access to double underline (you can apply it
via character > font effects > underlining) and haven't defined the shortcut
ctrl+D.

The actual question is if a shortcut to double underline in Impress/Draw is
really required. And even in Calc it's questionable since you better format the
final text in Writer. Plus, ctrl+D is not the best shortcut for this function.
So if we go with double underline everywhere it should be shift+ctrl+U (free in
all modules).

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