[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 113960] [Tables] Adapting table width by default

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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 116609 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to zyklon87 from comment #8)
> If there still is some unclarity, I’ll do a screencast. ;)

The request is clear and apparently there is no option except the alt+cursor
shortcut.

Option 1: Rework the table properties dialog and keep the table width setting
on close; resizing a column affects the table with if this checkbox is set 
Option 2: Introduce a modifier key such as shift that can be used together with
the mouse to change the table width likewise it's done with the checkbox
Supplemental: Provide a configuration at Tools > Options to define the default

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--- Comment #8 from zyklo...@web.de ---
If there still is some unclarity, I’ll do a screencast. ;)

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--- Comment #7 from zyklo...@web.de ---
The problem exactly is, that the table width is _not_ altered, after making a
column smaller or bigger – instead other columns get modified, what I
absolutely don’t like, as I in about all cases set up my column width exactly
to my needs. And I don’t like to do that process all the time again. :/

And oftentimes, the table alignment also gets altered. When I set a table to be
centered, I don’t like that to be changed. Only the table width (not the column
widths) need to change with content. There just is the default “automatic”
mode, which may allow the column width to adapt sizec – ok – but please don’t
do that in all other modes!

If you browse on one website, you also won’t like Firefox to alter the contents
of other websites. (Just for giving some random analogy.)

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--- Comment #6 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Trying again I wonder how you achieve to resize the table width when
> adjusting a column. What works is when I configure columns in the dialog (as
> discussed in comment 2) but never for manual resizing.

For manual resizing do not use the mouse but the keyboard. It is
Alt+Arrow_right and Alt+Arrow_left. The behavior of this shortcuts can be
configured in the options.

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Trying again I wonder how you achieve to resize the table width when adjusting
a column. What works is when I configure columns in the dialog (as discussed in
comment 2) but never for manual resizing.

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--- Comment #4 from zyklo...@web.de ---
I beg you, please fix that bug. This week I had to edit some tables and the
experience was incredible annoying.

First problem is, that both settings “Alignment = center” and “Adapt table with
= true” don’t get saved. …or get overwritten?

So after about every modification of column widths, the alignment of that table
gets weirdly displaced.

Second issue is, that the insertion or the removal of a column completely
changes all(?!) column widths, as there obviously applys the constraint, that
the table width has to stay the same…?! This logic is totally uncomprehensible,
is this would just replicate a special case for e.g. text-embedded tables, that
should not modify the text layout and therefore have to retain the size.

In total, for altering a column, I always need several minutes for adapting all
the widths again – as these have to keep exact widths for avoiding line breaks.
I don’t understand this.

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--- Comment #3 from zyklo...@web.de ---
Thanks for your comment, but I actually meant, that it is annyoing, that a
change to one column (no matter which) affects other columns. This behaviour is
due to the option “adapt table with” not being checked by default.

What I want is, that a change to a column width should NOT affect ANY other
column – but instead the complete table with. So if my table spans over the
whole screen, and I shrink any column by a several amount, I want the whole
table being shrinked by exactly this amount, because the width of all other
columns should persist.

The solution is pretty easy: Just make the checkmark default.


The mode with that unchecked checkmark (i.e. altering one column’s width
changes another one) being completely useless is another bug. But I don’t care
about that, because I would never use that.

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Page A4, new table with 5 columns: 3.4cm + 0cm remaining
Alignment automatic: Cell 1 = 2cm: cell 2: 4.8cm, 3-4: 3.4cm Remaining: 0cm
Alignment center, [x] Adapt table width: Cell 1 = 2cm, 2-5: 3.4cm Remaining:
1.4cm
Alignment center: Table is placed horizontally centered (given remaining space
>0)

What you expect is, from what I understand, check [x] Adapt table width,
configure the width of col 1 (remaining size goes into the extra field), adjust
the last or any other column (taken from remaining space. Worksforme.

I doubt that changing col 1 should affect the last col in all use cases. What I
could imagine is you want to make col 1 smaller and adjust all other cols
equally with no remaining space. This could be done with bug 113604. 

If you accept, Zyklon, I would make this ticket a duplicate of the other.

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[Bug 113088] [META] Writer table properties dialog bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #1 from Aschalew  ---
I have been tried it. Widen column works well but alter the width of rows
affects the width of next rows if you have been altered its default width. 


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