[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 114886] [Sidebar: Styles and formatting] Implementing the styles views as filters

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114278
[Bug 114278] [META] Style filter drop down list in Styles deck of Sidebar
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--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
In reply to zyklon87 from comment #10)
> Would you mind adding an additional checkbox “[x] used styles”?

Yes, good point.

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--- Comment #10 from zyklo...@web.de ---
Would you mind adding an additional checkbox “[x] used styles”?

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Okay, so let's go with a checkbox [x] Hierarchical next to [x] Show Preview
that allows to show any filtered selection in a tree. And of course,
Hierarchical should be removed from the list.

The question on tree visualization with or without help lines should be
separated.

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--- Comment #8 from zyklo...@web.de ---
Actually, my bug report was about splitting the current list up in a) filters
and b) view/sorting modes. I for example would like to able to use the “used
styles” filter (maybe via a checkbox?) in conjunction with every selectable
style of that list. The tree lines would be a nice addition though, but are not
really my concern. :)

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eric Bright from comment #5)
> A huge drawback of the current, messy hierarchical view is that since it is
> not usable as it is due to all styles being listed whether or not they are
> applied...

Now you mix-up different topics. Let's focus on the design question, showing
tree lines to support the hierarchy. 

The option Hierarchical being orthogonal or rather additional to the filters
All styles, Applied, Hidden etc. is a different question and likely discussed
in other tickets.

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Heirarchical view in LibreOffice Writer version 6.0.2.1 on Windows 10 (as of
2018-03-20)

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--- Comment #5 from Eric Bright  ---
A huge drawback of the current, messy hierarchical view is that since it is not
usable as it is due to all styles being listed whether or not they are applied,
one cannot easily know which paragraph style is inheriting properties from
which other style in a glance. This causes a huge problem later when you want
to change levels or other organizational settings and suddenly see seemingly
unrelated styles are being "randomly" changed as a consequence (of course it is
not random, and they are inheriting properties from the style you just changed,
but you cannot see that). This, in my opinion, defeats the whole purpose of the
hierarchical view.

With a clean hierarchical view, as is suggested in the OP, and proper branch
lines that visually connect and separate each branch from others, for the
Applied Styles, one can easily see and understand what is going on.

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--- Comment #4 from Eric Bright  ---
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Hierarchical tree branch view in LibreOffice Writer version 6.0.2.1 on Windows
10 (as of 2018-03-20)

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to Eric Bright from comment #2)
> > Hierarchical tree lines that connects the branches as they appear nested...
> 
> Doesn't the look and feel of trees depend on your system theme?

I am not sure. On my system, a Windows 10, x64, it looks awful. I attached
another screenshot, which shows how it looks like on my system at best.

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eric Bright from comment #2)
> Hierarchical tree lines that connects the branches as they appear nested...

Doesn't the look and feel of trees depend on your system theme?

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--- Comment #2 from Eric Bright  ---
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Hierarchical tree branch view in another word-processor

Hierarchical tree lines that connects the branches as they appear nested inside
one another also make the Hierarchical view a lot more readable. This
screenshot  shows how it is done in another word-processor.

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--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
100% agree we the clear separation of viewing modes from filters.

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