[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115467] Unticking "Master background" in slide properties makes formatted background go away

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115467] Unticking "Master background" in slide properties makes formatted background go away

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Regina Henschel  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

URL||https://docs.oasis-open.org
   ||/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/o
   ||s/part3-schema/OpenDocument
   ||-v1.3-os-part3-schema.html#
   ||property-presentation_backg
   ||round-visible

--- Comment #10 from Regina Henschel  ---
The associated style attribute in ODF is '20.232
presentation:background-visible'. And it's description is:
"The presentation:background-visible attribute specifies whether to display the
background of a master page when displaying a presentation page."

So the current behavior of LibreOffice does not fit to the spec.

The "background" of an individual slide is a 'draw:fill' attribute in the style
of this individual slide. It is different from 'background of a master page'.
Therefor it should not be effected.

There exists no attribute in the spec to hide the fill of an individual slide.

>From point of ODF spec, solution (b) would be correct.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 115467] Unticking "Master background" in slide properties makes formatted background go away

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   What|Removed |Added

 CC|mentoring@documentfoundatio |
   |n.org   |
   Severity|minor   |normal
   Priority|medium  |low

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
"Master Background" (MB) disables the chosen background but applies also to the
attributes set on the slide. If you untick MB, the orange background becomes
white (None), changing slide properties > color to blue has no effect. But if
MB is on you get the blue background, which reverts to orange by setting None.

We could a) rename MB to just Background or b) do not block individual but only
master properties. The None =  remains a bit weird anyway.

Looking into the code at sd/source/ui/view/drviews2.cxx
DrawViewShell::FuTemporary() case SID_DISPLAY_MASTER_BACKGROUND, it seems the
background has it's own layer which is hidden by unticking the checkbox.
Meaning we cannot distinguish between master background and slide background.
Hope someone proves me wrong.

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--- Comment #8 from David F Smith  ---
This bug is still present.  The user interface might have changed since I first
reported it, or I may have abbreviated the steps, so here is a new step-by-step
with the current behavior.

(New) Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a new presentation with several slides.
2. In the sidebar, choose Properties, then under Slide click Master View. 
Right-click on the Master Slide, click on Slide Properties, and choose the
Background tab.  Click Color, choose an obvious color such as orange, and click
OK.  The background of the Master Slide becomes orange.
3. Click Close Master View in the sidebar.  All of the slides become orange.
4. Select one of the slides in the Slide Pane.  In the Sidebar, uncheck Master
Background.  The slide switches to a white background (although not in the
slide pane, but that's another issue.)
5. Right-click on the (white) slide, click on Slide Properties, and choose the
Background tab.  Click on Color, choose a different obvious color such as
purple, and click OK.  The slide is still white.
6. Right-click on the (white) slide, click on Slide Properties, and choose the
Background tab.  Click on Gradient, select one of the gradients, and click OK. 
The slide is still white, even though the sidebar (slide properties) now shows
that the Background is a gradient.
7. Try the other possible backgrounds (Bitmap, Pattern, or Hatch).
8. In the sidebar, check Master Background.  Aha!  The selected background is
applied to the formerly white slide (although the Slide Pane still shows it as
white).
(8a. In the previous step, the Master Background checkbox might not be visible;
if you have chosen a background with more parameters than you started with, the
Slide Properties will be longer, but the Layouts Properties don't automatically
shift down to make room.)
9. For extra confusion, click Master View.  The Slide Master has a solid orange
background, showing that there is a "master slide" for the presentation and a
different "master slide" (invisible unless applied) for the slide we've been
working on.


Note that step 8a is a new observation that wasn't present before or that I
didn't notice.

I reiterate my contention that the "Slide Master" appears to be an unnecessary
concept and a source of confusion.  Why not just allow the user to change the
background of each slide directly?  Then the Presentation Master would be a
one-step way to control the background of all slides.

Thanks for considering this report.

Version: 7.1.4.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: a529a4fab45b75fefc5b6226684193eb000654f6
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
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--- Comment #7 from QA Administrators  ---
Dear David F Smith,

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|difficultyInteresting,  |
   |easyHack, needsDevEval, |
   |skillCpp|

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 CC||uwesto...@web.de

--- Comment #6 from Buovjaga  ---
*** Bug 117358 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #5 from Regina Henschel  ---
The "grayed out" should be taken from a checked checkbox, because background
objects cannot be hidden at the master page.

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyInteresting,
   ||easyHack, needsDevEval,
   ||skillCpp
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Let's go with Regina's suggestion and disable the unchecked checkboxes in
master mode.

Nice easy hack but needsDevEval for code pointers.

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 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #3 from Regina Henschel  ---
The check-boxes "Master background" and "Master Objects" should be disabled, if
in master view. They set the attributes "presentation:background-visible" and
"presentation:background-objects-visible". The specification text for those is,
"The presentation:background-visible attribute specifies whether to display the
background of a master page when displaying a presentation page."
and
"The presentation:background-objects-visible attribute specifies whether to
display objects in the background of a master page when displaying a
presentation page."
respectively.
So these attributes make only sense for a normal page/slide. They made no
changes to the master page.

Styling the "background" of a slide does not generate a new "master", but it is
the draw:fill attribute in its page properties.

The implementation of "presentation:background-visible" and
"presentation:background-objects-visible" is wrong, because it does not only
disables things from master, but disables fill properties from the slide
itself.


For a master page the attribute draw:display of a  would be
suitable. But the implementation of layers has currently a lot of problems,
which have to be solved prior, that a quick solution is not possible.

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
If you not untick Master Background everythign should work as you expect. I'd
say we have two bugs: Master Background is no straightforward implemented and
the background set in master is not taken into the area dialog (tab is always
none). 

Ordinary bugs, AFAICS.

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Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
Version|6.0.0.3 release |3.5.0 release
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||todven...@suomi24.fi
 Blocks||103460
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
Summary|Confusion in setting the|Unticking "Master
   |background for a single |background" in slide
   |slide: UI   |properties makes formatted
   ||background go away
   Severity|normal  |minor

--- Comment #1 from Buovjaga  ---
Repro with the steps. It seems this has always been this way.

Let's ask UX what they think about this. They have lots of background
experience.

Win 10
LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3 
Build ID: 7e68ba2-a744ebf-1f241b7-c506db1-7d53735

Arch Linux 64-bit
Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 40c33132cfa6582dfccf17e787f10dd4dbd0819d
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: kde4; 
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); Calc: group
Built on February 24th 2018


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103460
[Bug 103460] [META] Master pages deck/tab of the sidebar
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