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--- Comment #30 from Commit Notification 
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Muhammet Kara committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=0ce6100ab672ad597f7555c0bd475b8393896c0f

tdf#117348: Change default grid color to a darker gray

It will be available in 6.2.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
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--- Comment #29 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Muhammet Kara from comment #28)
> Patch waiting for UX review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/62025/
> 
Thanks

> This bug report conflicts with
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85450

The darker grid as here will work as well as a blue as suggested, which has
issues. Have not run down the color assigned to the Guide, but it may need to
be split off from the DRAWGRID color anyway.

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--- Comment #28 from Muhammet Kara  ---
Patch waiting for UX review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/62025/

This bug report conflicts with
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--- Comment #27 from Pedro  ---
Since it was decided in a LO Design weekly meeting to go foward with this
change, I would like to know if any dev could change this in 6.2 since it still
wasn't done...

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Still present in 6.1 rc1.

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*** Bug 100780 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #24 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The Dark Gray 3 or Light Gray 2 of comment 21 are not appropriate as we'd have
to use their RGB value rather than a defined color constant for the
Autocolors[].

Rather, I've no objection to providing increased contrast by changing the
DRAWGRID 
aAutocolors[] slot's color constant [1] from COL_LIGHTGRAY rgb(0xc0,0xc0,0xc0)
to COL_GRAY7 rgb(0x66,0x66,0x66) [2].

Logic needed to scale the grid dots on zoom is a bit more involved, but the
color change over is simple and would make folks happier as a default.

@Adolfo, Samuel? One of you care to push a patch for testing?

=-ref-=
[1]
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svtools/source/config/colorcfg.cxx#444
[2] https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/include/tools/color.hxx#250

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--- Comment #23 from Maarten Brouwers  ---
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Example: Sketch's, a Mac drawing app, grid lines

+1 for improving the contrast by default. While things can be changed, the
defaults should be inclusive and be ok for all people, not just the majority.
The Powerpoint example shows that a higher contrast can work perfectly fine.

As  to the proposal, I wouldn't use two shades of grey; Gestalt principles help
already identify with the cross-sections. 

I believe LibreOffice is an exception to the rule, added a Mac Drawing app to
the list of examples with darker grid lines (even continuous lines, which is to
my recollection the standard in most more professional tools)

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--- Comment #22 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed this topic in the design meeting. The recommendation is to adjust
the distance and size of the dots depending on the zoom factor (like it's done
for the dashed line around text boxes). The color can be adjusted individually
(see comment 15) and the default (100%) looks good, so nothing needs to be
changed here.

This issue is probably an easyhack.

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--- Comment #21 from Pedro  ---
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Proposal: change the default color of grid nd text box to Dark Gray 3

Considering Regina's comment I've been playing around with the color of the
grid and the text box (Object properties) in the Options dialog.

So my proposal is:
Change default automatic color of objects and Grids (not only in Impress but
also Calc, Writer and Draw) to Dark Gray 3 instead of Dark gray 2.

Reasons:
- The current Light Gray 2 choice is a color with very poor contrast against
the default white background of LO Impress, Writer and Calc,
- The functionality of the grid as a tool is severely impacted by the current
color choice (even without considering potential improvements tha I'll refer to
in other bugs),
- Every other Office suite offer their grid with dark colors since it provides
better contrast. They do this because it improves usability. LO should do the
same.

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Adapting version...

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--- Comment #19 from Pedro  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12)
> My comment was about the gray/white contrast and the dot size as shown in
> the screenshots. Talking about zoom is something else and covered in bug
> 89544.

The color affects the visibility at high zoom levels as you can see in the
screenshot I took at zoom level 280% with Dark gray 2 instead of the Automatic
Light Gray 2.
It seems to me that the Light Gray 2 color is not the correct choice for the
grid since it affects its usefulness.

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--- Comment #18 from Pedro  ---
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Dark gray 2 zoom 280%

Even at 280%, the grid is much more noticeable with Dark Gray 2 compared with
Light Gray 2. this makes it MUCH easier to see, thus actually useful as a grid.

I would also change all the dots to the size of the corner dots since those
dots are still visible in zoom 280% and since those assume a small cross shape
they are extra useful.

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--- Comment #17 from Pedro  ---
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Dark gray 2 Grid

Okay, so the Automatic color of grids in Libre Office is Light Gray 2.
When the dominant color scheme of Libre Office is mostly white or light grays
this really makes it difficult to make the grid noticeable.

Therefore, I propose that the grid color should be changed to Dark Gray 2 as
default. I attached a screenshot and everyone can compare the difference in
visibility.

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--- Comment #16 from Pedro  ---
Thank you for the input Regina. I noticed that the dot size is not smaller in
higher zoom. It's exactly the same. However, the spacing between the dots
increases a lot so the small size, plus the increased spacing makes the grid
useless.

If we can change the color of the grid dots then I suggest changing it to black
by default.

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--- Comment #15 from Regina Henschel  ---
The color is no problem, because you can customize it. That is in Tools >
Options > LibreOffice > Application Colors, section Draw.

Sometimes I wish a larger dot size, but not always. It would be nice to have a
tool to easily increase/decrease dot size.

Some people think, that the dot size is smaller in large zoom. That is not the
case, which you can verify by comparing screenshots. But because there are less
dots, the brain does not generate a line from them. If you are lost in large
zoom it helps to adapt the point distances. But changing it for and back via
Tools > Options is cumbersome.

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--- Comment #14 from Pedro  ---
I would assume that functionality would trump form.

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--- Comment #13 from Pedro  ---
Ok, but then could you care to explain why aesthetically pleasing is a reason
to keep a ppor contrast choice of light gray on white background?
And the dot size also affects the use of the grid. It makes the smaller dots
nearly useless as space indicators.

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--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
My comment was about the gray/white contrast and the dot size as shown in the
screenshots. Talking about zoom is something else and covered in bug 89544.

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--- Comment #11 from Pedro  ---
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Impress zoom 280% in Full HD display

I mean, how is this superior to other grids? I can barely make out the dots
because excluding the ones in the corners they become minuscule. And the gray
color makes it even harder to spot them.

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--- Comment #10 from Pedro  ---
It is contrast because light gray dots against white background is harder to
see than black dots against a white background. That's a contrast issue.

And could you elaborate the ways in which the grid of Impress outperforms other
grids? Because that clearly does not happen if you have to zoom in on the slide
and it becames almost invisible due to the micro-dots.
The purpose of the grid is not to be aesthetically pleasing and less
distracting.
It's purpose is to actually be perceptible because it is a tool to help
spatially position objects in the slide so its purpose is to actually be
noticeable (or "distracting" as you mention). 

Also, I agree that the bigger dots on the corners have a good size.~All the
dots should have that size.

As it is, the grid may be more aesthetically pleasing or less distracting but
that's precisely what makes it less functional as a helpful tool. Which is its
purpose.

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Think you don't talk about "contrast" as in the ratio between black and white.
It's more conspicuity, distraction or standing-out too much. And I disagree,
our grid outperforms the competitors. To me it is less distracting and more
aesthetically pleasing with the slightly bigger dots.

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WPS Presentation grid 300%

WPS Presentation also has better visibility with the black dots and having a
slightly bigger size with high zoom levels.

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Softmaker Presentations grid zoom level 300%

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Softmaker Presentations Grid

I was testing Softmaker Presentations and it actually does things quite nicely.
You define the spacing between the dots on the grid and that spacing (example:
0.7cm) and the grid dots will always maintain that distance independently of
zoom level. 

Also notice the black dots (better contrast).

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--- Comment #4 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
Agree with this.
Especially when zooming in, the grid is almost invisible.

You need to try it live to see the problem. The screenshots do put some shadow
around the dots which isn't there.

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Powerpoint Zoom 300%

The grid dots are more visible because they have more contrast and have a
slightly bigger size than on smaller zoom levels.

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Impress Zoom 300%.

 The dots are barely visible due to the small size and poor contrast.

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Powerpoint grid has better grid. This is a lot easier on the eyes.

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