[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |tietze.he...@gmail.com |desktop.org | Keywords|needsUXEval | Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com |.freedesktop.org| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #14 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #13) > (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12) > > In Writer the item is active from scratch. So why not in Calc? > > It was requested in bug 99296 to disable h/f in Calc, and you also have to > enable it first in Writer. But that's not an answer or solution to this > issue. My opinions: a) Revert 99296 - NO b) Make this a WFM - no c) Move the disabled menu item to Edit - may be yes d) Auto enable H/F when content is inserted at the edit dialog - no May be just delete this menu item from Insert and change Help that user knows hot to enable header/footer in Calc (from menu Format->Page)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12) > In Writer the item is active from scratch. So why not in Calc? It was requested in bug 99296 to disable h/f in Calc, and you also have to enable it first in Writer. But that's not an answer or solution to this issue. a) Revert 99296 b) Make this a WFM c) Move the disabled menu item to Edit d) Auto enable H/F when content is inserted at the edit dialog -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added CC||c...@nouenoff.nl --- Comment #12 from Cor Nouws --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) > Yes, bug 99296 changed this. When you enable Header or Footer for the page > you get the menu item back. And then the Edit header/footer dialog opens (there is some default content). In Writer the item is active from scratch. So why not in Calc? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval CC|tietze.he...@gmail.com |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org --- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #10) > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7) > > We could move the menu entry to Edit, where it is actually better suited > > anyway. By doing so it's more clear that no header/footer has been enabled > > to be edited. > > How does the user know where he enables the header and footer? This needs to > be integrated into the header/footer dialog somehow before we disable them > by default. Added the UX list, and to summarize the issue is about a disabled menu entry in Calc after switching off Header/Footer by default at the page dialog. Actually I don't see this as a big issue. It was the same before with the little difference that the user switched H/F off manually. Okay, it's a big difference. But still, it's more or less the same in all other modules where you first have to enable H/F. By moving the disabled option to the Edit menu it becomes more clear that this dialog does not Insert. The alternative is somewhat like kompilainenn suggested in bug 121777 and I doubt it's easier to understand. Unfortunately the topic is urgent as the patch went into 6.2. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #10 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7) > We could move the menu entry to Edit, where it is actually better suited > anyway. By doing so it's more clear that no header/footer has been enabled > to be edited. How does the user know where he enables the header and footer? This needs to be integrated into the header/footer dialog somehow before we disable them by default. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #8) > I offer from menu Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2 open dialogue > "Page Style" on tab Header to user can make active header himself or can > select tab Footer and make active it That doesn't work. The Page dialog is one part and the other is the (Edit) Header and Footer dialog. We need two different commands, going to Page from Insert > H when there is no H|F set and to another dialog if it's set would be bad usability (and not easy to do). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #8 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> --- (In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #6) > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) > > Yes, bug 99296 changed this. When you enable Header or Footer for the page > > you get the menu item back. This is a consequence of the change and not a > > regression. So => NAB. > > > > Or do you have a different opinion, Samuel, as requester on the other > > ticket? > > Yes this was the reason I didn't just disable the headers and footers in bug > 99296. Needs some serious UX improvements before we can do that. > This is not at all clear to people as you can see with this bug. I offer from menu Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2 open dialogue "Page Style" on tab Header to user can make active header himself or can select tab Footer and make active it -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze --- We could move the menu entry to Edit, where it is actually better suited anyway. By doing so it's more clear that no header/footer has been enabled to be edited. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #6 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5) > Yes, bug 99296 changed this. When you enable Header or Footer for the page > you get the menu item back. This is a consequence of the change and not a > regression. So => NAB. > > Or do you have a different opinion, Samuel, as requester on the other ticket? Yes this was the reason I didn't just disable the headers and footers in bug 99296. Needs some serious UX improvements before we can do that. This is not at all clear to people as you can see with this bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC||s.mehrbr...@gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze --- Yes, bug 99296 changed this. When you enable Header or Footer for the page you get the menu item back. This is a consequence of the change and not a regression. So => NAB. Or do you have a different opinion, Samuel, as requester on the other ticket? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #4 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2) > Cannot confirm. If "[x] Use Header/Footer menu" is enabled you have the > "advanced" blue context menu. In all case you can click Insert > Header and > Footer > Header > Default Style or go via the page dialog to enter a header > (same for footer). > > Version: 6.3.0.0.alpha0+ > Build ID: 022ef7c579d09b9e57bf0fffba466cd385c73c52 > CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; > Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US > Calc: threaded Heiko, I say about >>>Calc<<< header/footer. You wrote about Writer header/footer -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #3 from Xavier Van Wijmeersch --- in calc header/footer its gray out in writer you can enable use header/footer menu but not in calc Version: 6.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 75dd5d2e734ad9e8265b1954c7496d1ba241079e CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: default; VCL: kde4; Locale: nl-BE (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US Calc: threaded -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 --- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze --- Cannot confirm. If "[x] Use Header/Footer menu" is enabled you have the "advanced" blue context menu. In all case you can click Insert > Header and Footer > Header > Default Style or go via the page dialog to enter a header (same for footer). Version: 6.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 022ef7c579d09b9e57bf0fffba466cd385c73c52 CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US Calc: threaded -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW --- Comment #1 from Timur --- Unless I miss something obvious, I reproduce and confirm this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121759] Doesn't active menu item Insert->Headers and Footers in Calc 6.2
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759 Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99 ||296 Keywords||bibisectNotNeeded, ||regression CC||tietze.he...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
