[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #6)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> > Changing the default style is a no-go.
> 
> I don't understand this...

If we go with a couple of system defaults and a freely defined list of own
styles we don't need to think about resetting. Modification of the Default
paragraph style is not recommended and should be prevented actually.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

--- Comment #6 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Changing the default style is a no-go.

I don't understand this, because you can change - for example - the default
paragraph style. I assume, that you get the default bullet style or default
list style, if you press the "toggled-numbered-list"-button or
"toggled-bulleted-list"-button. But you can't see that default style in the
sidebar. this is all very confusing to me.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Andy from comment #3)
> If I may, I would like to describe my idea again.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Let's phrase it like this: "I want to
click on the list button and always get a list with Cyrillic letters" (I chose
something that is not in the presets).

Changing the default style is a no-go. And as long you cannot add own list
styles you have to go via the styles sidebar/menu/dialog etc. On top of the
sidebar deck there is a list of toggle buttons where the fifth is for lists.
Create your style as known from paragraph or characters and assign it to some
paragraph style (use the filter at the bottom of the paragraph styles deck to
find lists). If you apply this list style to "List" it will be shown per click
on the list on/off button. It's a little bit cumbersome, but that's what the
other tickets are meant for.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
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--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Sorry, this is an exact duplicate of bug 69724

As there, currently changes to default number list for reuse requires creation
of a new template document.

Enhancement is ability to manipulate default numbering (and outline, list, and
bullet) style  without having to go through template creation/modification. 

Would require additions beyond template defaults be written as style stanzas
into per user profile, or possibly OS configuration/registry for multi-user.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 69724 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

--- Comment #3 from Andy  ---
Hello Heiko,
My suggestion is not addressed in any of the three references you listed.
If I may, I would like to describe my idea again.

=> Current Process:
1- Open a new Writer document.
2- Type a few lines of text, such as a list.
3- Highlight all text.
4- Click on the Numbering button in the toolbar.

Somewhere in the LO programming there is a default style for numbering which is
applied when the Numbering button is clicked. If I want the numbering style to
be different, I have to click on the Numbering down arrow, click on More
Numbering, and manually define the numbering style I want for this document.

After I've done that, for any other new documents:
5- Open a new Writer document.
6- Type a few lines of text, such as a list.
7- Highlight all text.
8- Click on the Numbering button on the toolbar.

In this new document, the same original default numbering style that came with
the LO download, is applied to the second document (and any others to
follow).Again, if I want the numbering style to be different for this new
document, I have to manually set the numbering style. I have to change this
numbering style away from the system default every time I apply it to a new
document.

=> My Suggestion:
1- Open LO Writer.
2- Click on Tools, then Options (or click on Format, then Bullets/Numbering).
3- Change the system default numbering style to be what I want, especially the
Postion tab (Aligned at, alignment, followed by, tab stop at, indent at). 
4- Save this as the new system default.

5- Open a new Writer document.
6- Type a few lines of text, such as a list.
7- Highlight all text.
8- Click on the Numbering button on the toolbar.

Viola! The default numbering style (including position) is the one I want! -
and it's the one I want for every new document after that too. There's no need
to change the numbering style every time I'm working in a new document, because
I am able to change the system default, and so it puts the style I want into
every document.

I hope this helps clarify my suggestion.
Thanks for your interest!
Andy

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Andy, please comment on c2. I think your request is a duplicate. Besides that
we made a proposal for the dialog at
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/10/28/impress-lists/ that is
tracked in bug 120905 and bug 56480 (sorry for the bunch of references).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121932] Please make default numbering to be user-definable!

2018-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121932

Dieter Praas  changed:

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 Blocks||103369
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57
   ||337,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||0802,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92
   ||619,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69
   ||724
 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de

--- Comment #1 from Dieter Praas  ---
Thank you for reporting the bug. I assume you are familiar with customizing
list styles. So your proposal is, that the "Toggle Numbered List" button and
the "Toggle Bulleted List" button are connectd with such a default style?

AFIK liste created with these buttons don't have a certain style also "List 1"
style in highlighted in the list style at the sidebar (see bug 120802).

There are some other bugs with this topic (bug 57337, bug 69724, bug 92619 and
many more.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103369
[Bug 103369] [META] Bullet, numbered, and outline list bugs and enhancements
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