[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eric L. from comment #8)
> I'm quite flabbergasted: my experience was completely different and I've got
> plenty of documents with demultiplied styles, but I can't reproduce it with
> a clean document, neither with Writer nor with Impress.
> 
> I've still got one of those presentations at work, let me try it again with
> it.

So let's close this for now and continue at the other issues (see c2). Feel
free to reopen in case your workflow is different.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

--- Comment #9 from QA Administrators  ---
[Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

--- Comment #8 from Eric L.  ---
I'm quite flabbergasted: my experience was completely different and I've got
plenty of documents with demultiplied styles, but I can't reproduce it with a
clean document, neither with Writer nor with Impress.

I've still got one of those presentations at work, let me try it again with it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
@Eric: Please reply to comment 6. Otherwise we have to resolve the issue due to
insufficientdata.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

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--- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Eric,

(In reply to Eric L. from comment #0)
> In all tools, especially Writer and Impress, but also the others, if you
> cut&paste text or objects from one document to the next, you get each time
> new styles Default_1 etc, even if the two documents are actually different
> versions of the same document that you are merging back, and the styles are
> actually the same.

I do not recognize this.
In my experience:
Copy from B to A: text with style X gets the formatting that is has in document
A íf the style is already in use.

> But even if you paste text from different documents/styles, you generally
> want the final text to look all the same and not want e.g. "body" text to
> look in 3 different ways in your text or presentation.

Can you give some sample documents?
version A and B of each in Writer and Impress please?

What version did you see this?

Greetings,
Cor

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

--- Comment #5 from Eric L.  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> We have a similar discussion for Impress (bug 124764) where it's not so

cut & paste issue I guess :-) this is the bug number of the current bug, not
another one!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

--- Comment #4 from Eric L.  ---
The search & replace styles topic already has its meta bug:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106876 so I'd like to keep
it out of this bug, if you don't mind.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

--- Comment #3 from Eric L.  ---
I wouldn't overdo it at first and simply merge styles with the same name and
add styles with different names.

The use case (for me) is mainly a master document where I've spent time having
the styles looking like I want them, and cut&pasting elements (text, slides,
etc) from other similar documents, either:

1. because I write a document together with others and need to insert their
stuff into my master document.
2. even more frequently, I just have a standard template, adapt it for my
customers, write a cool thing I could reuse and want to bring it back into my
initial template.

In both cases, the styles are more or less the same ones and the ones not
matching are only a few.

For the use case of cut&pasting texts with wildly different style structures, I
would rather suggest a separate "search & replace styles" dialog, which could
also be used for other use cases, like cleaning up the styles of an already
existing document. I would actually volunteer to create a separate ticket for
this aspect.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We have a similar discussion for Impress (bug 124764) where it's not so clear
which master slide should be used when copying a slide. The same is true in
Writer: you may want to override the existing style, eg. Heading, with what you
paste but similarly you want to keep the target's style (see bug 98381). 

Ideally we have options in paste special, a) override target styles, b)
override source styles, and c) add new styles. H1s (Heading 1 from source) with
serif font pasted in H1t with sans serif makes a) H1 = serif (changing
everything in this document that relates to H1), b) changes the source from
serif to sans when pasted, and c) creates a "Heading 1_1". Today we do a) when
the document is new and b) if it contains content.

An elaborated UI blocks the workflow and wouldn't be not a good option in my
opinion. Another bad alternative is to have an undo stack (paste does insert
text then apply style then direct formatting, or the like)- also not a good
solution as very intransparent to the user.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
There would rarely, if ever, be a 1-to-1 mapping so we would have to provide a
UI to manually make the style assignments. 

Or if done more simply, i.e. import into target document with template
default(s) for the element type(s), could ask user to validate the import to
that style--or choose to make it unformatted text. More involved would be to
offer import to a different style than template default(s).

But at least it could clear out the source document style(s) and not bloat the
target document.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108479
[Bug 108479] [META] Paste special bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 124764] Paste structured text without format but with styles

2019-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124764

Caolán McNamara  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89903
[Bug 89903] Tracker bug for stuff that matters to me
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