[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Assignee|ilmari.lauhakangas@libreoff |libreoffice-b...@lists.free |ice.org |desktop.org Resolution|--- |MOVED --- Comment #10 from Buovjaga --- Website issues are not tracked here -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |ilmari.lauhakangas@libreoff |desktop.org |ice.org CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org Keywords|needsUXEval | --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- This is work in progress. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed: What|Removed |Added Component|Installation|LibreOffice -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- Don't think the AOO way is better. If you click on "need another language?" (that admittedly could become more emphasized) you come to a nice page with all the localizations where the language is available in English and original. Also, keep in mind that it heavily depend on the OS/distribution how installation works. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #6 from sbucks --- Thank you for caring about the issue. What do you mean by decoupling the l10n effort from the release cycle exactly? Where and when do discussions about bugs and/or UX take place? IMHO the outlined approach adds an extra barrier for end users before they can use LibO which they should not be forced to. For security and administration reasons plain end users (not administrators) usually don’t have permissions to install software. So they will have to enter administration credentials as an extra step. In governmental or enterprise environments where they don’t have them they will fail. Therefore either they would not have LibO in their native language or the organisation’s IT department has to build its own LibO software package including the language pack. I looked how the OpenOffice people handle this, see attachment. On their download site they detect the operating system and language. The user can change both. They offer a full installation package and a separate language pack. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #7 from sbucks --- Created attachment 152630 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=152630&action=edit OpenOffice download site -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #5 from sbucks --- Thank you for caring about the issue. What do you mean by decoupling the l10n effort from the release cycle exactly? Where and when do discussions about bugs and/or UX take place? IMHO the outlined approach adds an extra barrier for end users before they can use LibO which they should not be forced to. For security and administration reasons plain end users (not administrators) usually don’t have permissions to install software. So they will have to enter administration credentials as an extra step. In governmental or enterprise environments where they don’t have them they will fail. Therefore either they would not have LibO in their native language or the organisation’s IT department has to build its own LibO software package including the language pack. I looked how the OpenOffice people handles this, see attachment. On their download site they detect the operating system and language. The user can change both. They offer a full installation package and a separate language pack. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|skillDesign | Severity|normal |enhancement Component|UI |Installation Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC||cl...@documentfoundation.or ||g, er...@redhat.com, ||guil...@fripost.org, ||so...@libreoffice.org --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- We talked about the localization topic these days in the team. And besides the requested improvements to our infra structure there are more aspects worth to consider. I would like if we decouple the l10n effort from the release cycle and don't compile localization into the application but have an easy way to add. At least on Linux, the list of localizations spams the repository. And default combinations such as western, ctl, cjk are sometimes also not helpful, eg. when I want to just switch between Hebrew and English. So my take here is to have the localizations as extensions and provide a selection dialog after the first installation. Admitted that such a change wont change the download issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 sbucks changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||skillDesign -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #3 from sc...@die-optimisten.net --- Created attachment 152239 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=152239&action=edit Language selection page -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #2 from sc...@die-optimisten.net --- Created attachment 152238 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=152238&action=edit Download page (macOS) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 125961] [Website] Download page should support non-English users better
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125961 --- Comment #1 from sc...@die-optimisten.net --- Created attachment 152237 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=152237&action=edit Download page (Linux) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
