[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126810

--- Comment #10 from steffan.steff...@gmx.net ---

Sorry, wrong language, so here goes again, same comment in English
(by the way, is there a editung function for comments on bugzilla ??)

I finally found time to check what the reason for my problems might be (and I
was successful)

A hint was that my WORD 2016 behaves exactly as LibreOffice should  (that is,
as described here under Comment 1.

e.g.
T?ES:T - Der Dateiname ist ungültig.
::TEST - Ungültige Klassenzeichenfolge

This led me to believe that remains of older versions of LibreOffice might be
responsible. So I deinstalled my current version of LibreOffice, and then I
deleted all remaining folders I could find.

I deleted

C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 5
C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 5
C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice

and then I installed the new version  6.3.0.4 (x64):

Result: behaviour is now exactly as described under comment 1.

Maybe this could at least be useful for the user support department – even
though it might not really be a novelty that deleting all old files and folders
of a programs is actually helpful in some cases.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126810

steffan.steff...@gmx.net changed:

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 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
 Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from steffan.steff...@gmx.net ---
Also, ich habe jetzt doch noch überprüft, woran es liegen könnte (und bin auch
fündig geworden ..)

Ein Hinweis für mich war, dass sich mein WORD 2016 genauso verhält, wie das
LibreOffice das auch soll (also so, wie hier in Comment 1 beschrieben).

Also z.B.
T?ES:T - Der Dateiname ist ungültig.
::TEST - Ungültige Klassenzeichenfolge

Das hat mich auf die Idee gebracht, dass alte Versionen von LibreOffice
„schuld“ sein könnten. Ich habe also mein LibreOffice 6 deinstalliert, und auch
alle alten Ordner manuell gelöscht, also

C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 5
C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 5
C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice

und dann die neueste Version: 6.3.0.4 (x64) installiert:

Ergebnis: jetzt ist bei mir ebenfalls alles so, wie in Comment 1 beschrieben.

Zumindest könnte das als Information für den Benutzersupport brauchbar sein,
wobei es sicherlich dort keine Neuigkeit ist, dass das komplette Löschen aller
alten Dateien eines Programms bisweilen  Probleme / unerwünschtes Verhalten
beseitigen kann ...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126810

Dieter Praas  changed:

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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
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--- Comment #8 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to steffan.steffner from comment #7)
> If this bug stays open for comments a few more days, maybe I’ll find the
> time to check on my Windows and I will post here what I found.

Stefan, any news about this bug? Shall we leave it open or shall we close it?

=> NEEDINFO

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126810

--- Comment #7 from steffan.steff...@gmx.net ---

I checked this issue with LibreOffice running on another install of windows 10,
also Version 1903, and with the same version of LibreOffice: 6.2.5.2 (x64).

Result: 
On this install, I have the same results as  Oliver Brinzing has had in Comment
2. So it seems that  he had the correct idea in comment 4 that it has got
something to do with the Windows OS – and is probably not at all the
LibreOffice’s fault .

So, thank you everybody for your time and input. 

If this bug stays open for comments a few more days, maybe I’ll find the time
to check on my Windows and I will post here what I found.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from steffan.steff...@gmx.net ---
To clarify my point:
I don‘t run into any unexpected difficulty with Writer /libreOffice:
Since I know that using characters like „?“, „:“ „/“ etc. in any file name on a
computer is a bad idea, I just don‘t use it.

And to answer your question
>Do you have full access (F) permission?

Yes, when I use a „normal“ file name, I have no problem to save a file in
Writer. 

So again, what I am trying to say is:
the error report that is displayed by LibreOffice Writer (and the same is true
for LibreOffice Calc) is completely misleading. I come across this error report
a few times a year, just because it hit a wrong touch on my keyboard (but I
certainly know instantly what to do). But I am sure that this has the potential
to drive beginners mad. 

I am not saying that LibreOffice should allow saving file names with „?“ and
„:“ in them (if this would be possible at all), but the error report should not
be misleading (as it is for the time being). 

Even MS WORD 2016 does a better job in such a case, by just saying „der
Dateiname ist ungültig“ (again, when using „?“, „:“ etc. in a file name.

So, LibreOffice should definetely not give the statement „Aufgrund fehlender
Benutzerrechte kann auf das Objekt nicht zugegriffen werden“.


Since LibreOffice definitely wants to be as user friendly as possible, this
should be corrected. 

Again, as stated before, IMHO the error report should read (at least as
additional info):  
"You have probably used characters that are not allowed in a file name (you
should not use ?,:,/, etc. in a file name.)" (bzw. hier:  “der Dateiname
enthält unzulässige Zeichen.” (Or, at least "der Dateiname ist ungültig".

And yes, this bug does not really seam to have a high priority. But I think it
would be fairly easy to correct.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

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 OS|All |Windows (All)
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--- Comment #5 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
Under Ubuntu / Gnome I can save a file with a ? or a : in its name. It's a bad
idea but it works.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126810

--- Comment #4 from Oliver Brinzing  ---
(In reply to steffan.steffner from comment #2)
> If I try to save using the same file names that you tried in your examples,
> I get the follwing results on my PC 
> Version: 6.2.5.2 (x64)
> Build-ID: 1ec314fa52f458adc18c4f025c545a4e8b22c159
> CPU-Threads: 4; BS: Windows 10.0; UI-Render: Standard; VCL: win; 
> Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Sprache: de-DE 
> Calc: threaded
> 
> 1) T?ES:T - „Fehler beim Speichern des Dokumentes Unbenannt 1:
> Kein Zugriff auf Objekt. Aufgrund fehlender Benutzerrechte kann auf das
> Objekt nicht zugegriffen werden“

you can check file permissions, e.g.:

C:\Users\[USERNAME]>icacls documents

Do you have full access (F) permission?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from steffan.steff...@gmx.net ---
Well, the last line in my above Comment 2 should probably read "" instead of ""

Just to avoid confusion.


Off topic:
I can't find the "edit function" for comments on bugzilla. Maybe somebody can
give me a hint.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from steffan.steff...@gmx.net ---
Here some more examples:

If I try to save using the same file names that you tried in your examples, I
get the follwing results on my old Laptop that runs  Win XP 
Version: 5.4.7.2  
Build-ID: c838ef25c16710f8838b1faec480ebba495259d0 
CPU-Threads: 2; BS: Windows 5.1; UI-Render: Standard; Gebietsschema: de-DE
(de_DE); Calc: group)
1)  T?ES:T - „Der Dateiname ist ungültig.“
2) ::TEST - „Der Dateiname ist ungültig.“
3) T:EST  - „Pfad existiert nicht, Überprüfen Sie, ob der Pfad richtig ist“
4) TE?STrefuses to save,

If I try to save using the same file names that you tried in your examples, I
get the follwing results on my PC 
Version: 6.2.5.2 (x64)
Build-ID: 1ec314fa52f458adc18c4f025c545a4e8b22c159
CPU-Threads: 4; BS: Windows 10.0; UI-Render: Standard; VCL: win; 
Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Sprache: de-DE 
Calc: threaded

1) T?ES:T - „Fehler beim Speichern des Dokumentes Unbenannt 1:
Kein Zugriff auf Objekt. Aufgrund fehlender Benutzerrechte kann auf das Objekt
nicht zugegriffen werden“
2) 3) und 4)  

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 126810] FILESAVE

2019-08-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Oliver Brinzing  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Oliver Brinzing  ---
with 

Version: 6.3.0.4 (x64)
Build ID: 057fc023c990d676a43019934386b85b21a9ee99
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: 

if i try to save a new writer document i get:

T?ES:T - Der Dateiname ist ungültig.
::TEST - Ungültige Klassenzeichenfolge
T:EST  - Laufwerk T: ist nicht vorhanden.
 Überprüfen Sie das Laufwerk, und wiederholen Sie den Vorgang.
TE?ST  - refuses to save,

can you please add some examples ?

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