[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #13 from mirko.piero...@studenti.polito.it --- Let's take some time to collect useful tips (which we could add here in the comments) and come back to the problem in a few months' time once we have more tips? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #9) > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > > The illustration next to the tip has a MIME type icon... > I only realized that after you pointed it out... The idea was to have an illustration for the tip next to it, for example a screenshot for the marching ants. Unfortunately I haven't got any artwork yet. (In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #10) > ... then these tips should be shown > first and only after 124 starts other module tips will be shown To solve bug 127400, I changed the randomization towards a sequential procedure. So we could sort the tips in any order now. Doubt this solves the actual issue. (In reply to mirko.pieropan from comment #11) > So are we discarding the idea of restricting the set of possible tips on the > basis of the module the user is choosing? We could add a sufficient number of tips for Draw, Impress, Base, and Math to eventually have enough for a module-specific selection. Hard work as informative tips are not easy to find and write. Another solution is to show the tips not when the module is run but the start center. In this case ideally inline with the recently opened files. But I don't know how to do that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #11 from mirko.piero...@studenti.polito.it --- So are we discarding the idea of restricting the set of possible tips on the basis of the module the user is choosing? That seems the most natural option to me, but I don't know how complicated things would be in terms of implementation. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #10 from Thomas Lendo --- (In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #9) > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > > The illustration next to the tip has a MIME type icon depending on the > > module right now, if it's a specific tip. > I only realized that after you pointed it out, probably because it's just a > small icon on the socket of the much bigger light bulb.. I also never realized that. Anyway, something that isn't seen doesn't exist in point of UX. When there are so few Draw tips I would prefer following solution: When there are 73 Writer tips and 51 generic tips then these tips should be shown first and only after 124 starts other module tips will be shown, for Draw only after 60 tips, etc. It makes more sense to show other tips then already known tips more times. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #9 from Eike Rathke --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > The illustration next to the tip has a MIME type icon depending on the > module right now, if it's a specific tip. I only realized that after you pointed it out, probably because it's just a small icon on the socket of the much bigger light bulb.. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- Since nobody takes my comment 4 into account, here is another argument: We may have enough tips for Writer and Calc to randomly give hints on startup but not in case of Impress/Draw and definitely not for Base. The actual numbers are: Writer: 73 Calc: 69 Impress: 11 Draw: 9 Generic: 51 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #7 from mirko.piero...@studenti.polito.it --- I completely agree with Thomas' comment #6! (In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #6) > I support Eike's comment 3. I even noticed in the last days that a Writer > tip confused me when opening a Calc document and I had to think about it > before I understand that's a Writer tip. I can imagine that this is not > useful for inexperienced users. > > There should be tips for Common/all, Writer, Calc, Impress, Base, Draw, > Math. But maybe a 'fun' tip category also would be cool to promote new or > underestimated features. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 Thomas Lendo changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||125257 --- Comment #6 from Thomas Lendo --- I support Eike's comment 3. I even noticed in the last days that a Writer tip confused me when opening a Calc document and I had to think about it before I understand that's a Writer tip. I can imagine that this is not useful for inexperienced users. There should be tips for Common/all, Writer, Calc, Impress, Base, Draw, Math. But maybe a 'fun' tip category also would be cool to promote new or underestimated features. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125257 [Bug 125257] [META] Tip of the day -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #5 from mirko.piero...@studenti.polito.it --- That's true. I guess that, at this point, it all depends on the specific target audience you have in mind. I think that many people might just ignore the tips of the day unless they are made more specific to their own aims while using the software, whereas the ones who are very enthusiastic and who have time will find them fun and will want to delve deeper. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- The illustration next to the tip has a MIME type icon depending on the module right now, if it's a specific tip. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #3 from Eike Rathke --- At least have some tag or indicator to which module the tip applies, e.g. Calc, Writer, Common, ... it makes no sense to see a tip that describes behaviour/featuer only working in Writer when opening a Calc document, but the tip is formulated such that it leaves the impression it could work in Calc as well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 --- Comment #2 from mirko.piero...@studenti.polito.it --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1) > To my understanding a tip of the day is unspecific and more fun than help. > So I wouldn't make it more complex. But open for other opinions. I partly agree on that, but I believe it might be kind of distracting to see tips that are somewhat far from how one intends to use the software when they need it. At least, that's true for me and this is of course my very personal opinion. Then, if one has time and is curious about knowing more about the goodies LibreOffice has to offer, it's definitely worth to provide the opportunity to do so, but might there be a better place for that, perhaps? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda | |tion.org| --- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze --- To my understanding a tip of the day is unspecific and more fun than help. So I wouldn't make it more complex. But open for other opinions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127294] Making tips of the day specific to the kind of document created
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added CC||heiko.tietze@documentfounda ||tion.org, ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org, ||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org Keywords||needsUXEval -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
