[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added CC||yallabala...@gmail.com --- Comment #10 from Timur --- *** Bug 137579 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval | CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- No further input from the design team, removing the keyword now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 --- Comment #8 from stde...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #7) > (In reply to stdedos from comment #6) > > I am more interested that (a) "not hide options ..." and (b) somehow > > visually indicate "why" I cannot do a disabled action, e.g. raise an Error > > Message box sayng "Cannot remove sheet: tracking changes is active!". > Ah. In my experience options that are not valid, are greyed out (or hidden).. So, why can I not delete a sheet? Remember that: 1) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130849 is a verified bug 2) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130847 (description is complicated, but having verified [1] disambiguates it: Ctrl+Shift+C for activating tracking changes is "very close" to common shortcuts and can be activated "under the radar") 3) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130843 is a bug to me (note that I have even mounted/grep-ed the xlsx archive) 4) And, I cannot see anything out of the ordinary (for some reason / you _may_ attribute this as my fault) 5) No "clear" indication that Tracking Changes mode is activated (this ticket, point C). I don't think I've hidden "something" that would have indicated to me that tracking changes are active (if somehow I can reset "everything" temporarily and try again, I can do it again. I have started in safe mode though already). I have "only" understood that Tracking Changes are active when I did https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130832 that. (Maybe this applies to Move Sheets menu option also, I don't remember anymore) Maybe it's my fault that I didn't search help for "Delete Sheet", again. I feel that I am "competent enough" user with spreadsheets, *and* I can find _some_ of the options grayed out - so, why would I look for help on "how" to delete sheets? I don't know; it's my strong opinion that two so different functionalities shouldn't interact with each other "under the radar". If you disable "Remove Filtering" because I haven't applied a Filter in the selection yet, I get it. > > > So I changed the summary of this report. OK? > > > > As long as we are saying the same thing, yes, everything is okay. > That's why I'm asking you, to be sure that I do understand you well :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 --- Comment #7 from Cor Nouws --- (In reply to stdedos from comment #6) > I am more interested that (a) "not hide options ..." and (b) somehow > visually indicate "why" I cannot do a disabled action, e.g. raise an Error > Message box sayng "Cannot remove sheet: tracking changes is active!". Ah. In my experience options that are not valid, are greyed out (or hidden).. > > So I changed the summary of this report. OK? > > As long as we are saying the same thing, yes, everything is okay. That's why I'm asking you, to be sure that I do understand you well :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 --- Comment #6 from stde...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #5) > (In reply to stdedos from comment #0) > > A) not hide options from here they are supposed to be > > B) add a tooltip "disabled because X" > > C) add a "tracking changes" status icon > > > > It is enough disorienting that different Spreadsheet programs might have > > different options in different places; it is painful to hide some of them > > with no apparent reason. > Apparently some things do not work. Developer time/effort... > So it is useful to e.g. track adding a sheet. And OK, it cannot be removed.. > so that should be explained. I am more interested that (a) "not hide options ..." and (b) somehow visually indicate "why" I cannot do a disabled action, e.g. raise an Error Message box sayng "Cannot remove sheet: tracking changes is active!". Adding more text somewhere in Help will not make much difference, since there is already something there (as is indicated somewhere). > So I changed the summary of this report. OK? As long as we are saying the same thing, yes, everything is okay. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 130840] UI Create a better Help/UX for "Tracking Changes" mode; explaining limitations/what works
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130840 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added Version|6.2.8.2 release |Inherited From OOo CC||c...@nouenoff.nl Summary|UI Create a better UX for |UI Create a better Help/UX |"Tracking Changes" mode |for "Tracking Changes" ||mode; explaining ||limitations/what works --- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws --- (In reply to stdedos from comment #0) > A) not hide options from here they are supposed to be > B) add a tooltip "disabled because X" > C) add a "tracking changes" status icon > > It is enough disorienting that different Spreadsheet programs might have > different options in different places; it is painful to hide some of them > with no apparent reason. Apparently some things do not work. Developer time/effort... So it is useful to e.g. track adding a sheet. And OK, it cannot be removed.. so that should be explained. So I changed the summary of this report. OK? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs