[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #19 from Daniele --- As suggested by Stephane, I am adding below what was described in Bug 157921 - Collaboration feature missing in Libreoffice: offline enhancement suggestion with user registration and peer to peer document updates Description: Presently one mayor drawback in working with LO in teams is a collaboration feature. Other projects have tried filling this gap with online solutions. Unfortunately, they all fall behind what could allow LO making a breakthrough in this area and be adopted by the thousands of users who are struggling with other tools, being they paid, free, or opensource. What I am suggesting is focusing on offline collaboration without having to make a change to the bulk of Libreoffice project. Not being a programmer, I will just suggest what I see in the steps below. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Probably a flat file format is necessary for this 2. Secondly, also a user registration in LO 3. Thirdly, files would have to run in a service which would come packaged within LO, such as Syncthing or similar (peer to peer) 4. Changes made to documents by several could be handled in the way anytype.io (an offline collaboration project, or a similar one) is doing. Actual Results: Presently such a collaboration is not possible. Expected Results: I expect this solution to deliver a collaboration software while keeping the richness and speed of the present Libreoffice product. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||grass...@gmail.com --- Comment #18 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) --- *** Bug 157921 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #17 from Regis Perdreau --- Sorry for my previous comment, i have just seen the links above . -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #16 from Regis Perdreau --- Is there any archive of the study of collaborative LibreOffice ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #15 from Thorsten Behrens (allotropia) --- (In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #14) > Nevertheless I would recommend not discarding the idea pre-emptively; but to > look at the cost and scope of whatever estimation quite carefully. Then > again - the idea of off-line collaborative editing - without a network is > not obviously a helpful one ;-) > Not disagreeing, that Collabora's Online approach was perhaps the only way to get full-featured realtime collaboration done in finite time. ;) As an enhancement request, I believe though this report has merit. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #14 from Michael Meeks --- Sure; so many things are possible, though whether they are a good idea is another question =) You missed a link to us trying this in 2012: https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog/2012-03-26-collaboration.html which at least is where my optimism for this approach died ;-) (despite the carefully selected screenshare). I suspect Thorsten & Svante have a passion for this topic; and it's reasonable to hope that they would be interested in coming up with some ball-park here; then again COOL adopts the "really easy" way of doing this, which it turns out is several person decades of work (and counting ;-) - so (absent any super clever new idea I'm unaware of) - I would expect this would be a huge effort cost-wise. There is clearly a big tension here between feature depth & collaboration. Nevertheless I would recommend not discarding the idea pre-emptively; but to look at the cost and scope of whatever estimation quite carefully. Then again - the idea of off-line collaborative editing - without a network is not obviously a helpful one ;-) Thorsten ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #13 from Gerry --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #12) > Hmm, with "atticization" of LibreOffice Online, this is no longer feasible > as a core component. [...] > IMHO => WF Thanks @V Stuart Foote for your reply. I think that your have misunderstood this enhancement request. It is about LibreOffice Desktop being able to do real-time and offline collaborative editing of shared files. This feature is absolute business standard of MS Office Desktop for years and is used by millions of users everyday. LibreOffice Desktop is not able to do it and this is a huge drawback for LibreOffice desktop. Workgroups simply cannot consider LibreOffice Desktop as a competitor to MS Office, because of the lack of this feature. The description of the feature is very simple: Someone puts a file on MS Onedrive/Sharepoint (or for LO on any other server / file share) and invites the workgroup and other people to edit the file. MS Word Desktop is capable to have multiple users working on the same file at the same time. This feature is severely lacking in LibreOffice Desktop. And please do not come up with the argument that people should use Collabora Online instead. This enhancement request is about LibreOffice Desktop, which is the software governed by TDF. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #12 from V Stuart Foote --- Hmm, with "atticization" of LibreOffice Online, this is no longer feasible as a core component. TDF, with ESC guidance, has ceded the feature space to TDF partner Collabora and the suggested enhancements are a fundamental capability of their Collabora Online offerings. Development of LOOL is done barning a major shift in community participants. It certainly is nothing meriting TDF tender as that ship has sailed. IMHO => WF -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #11 from Gerry --- Hi, I consider adding this enhancement "Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)" as tender idea/proposal to improve LibreOffice [1] at the TDF. Since the proposal must respect the following structure, I need your input on cost estimate, contact and reviewers for this proposal. Thanks a lot! Cost Estimate: x week(s) Contact: Anakin Skywalker Reviewers: Luke Skywalker Short Description: … [1] https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/05/12/tender-ideas-and-proposals-to-improve-libreoffice/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 Gerry changed: What|Removed |Added CC||glo...@fbihome.de --- Comment #10 from Gerry --- Related to this enhancement request is Jan-Marek's post to the developer mailing list, in which he outlines the WASM port. The project ultimately aims at peer2peer real-time collaborative editing in Writer. Email: Initial work on a LibreOffice WASM port (and more) https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-December/086492.html Project description: LibreOffice P2P https://nlnet.nl/project/LibreOfficeP2P/ I felt free to add Jan-Marek to this bug, as he might be able to explain more their plans wrt collaborative editing and how the project relates to this bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #9 from Gerry --- I changed the title of this enhancement request to „real-time and offline collaborative editing“ to not confuse with the terms used. Here are the terms used for collaborative editing: *Collaborative editing* (synonyms: co-authoring, parallel editing) means that multiple users can work together on a document, spreadsheet or presentation, over the inter/intranet (e.g. saved in a CMIS). This term comprises *real-time* and *offline* collaborative editing. *Real-time collaborative editing* (synonyms: real-time parallel editing, real-time co-authoring, simultaneous collaborative editing) means that multiple users can simultaneously edit the same document. If anyone else is working on the document, the user sees their presence and the changes they're making in real-time. *Offline collaborative editing* (synonyms: offline parallel editing, asynchronous collaborative editing, synchronised collaborative editing) means that the user can keep working on the shared file, independently whether he/she is connected. When the user goes offline, the application switches from real-time collaborative editing to offline collaborative editing. If there are others editing the same document, they won't be able to see the changes while the user is offline. When the user goes back online, he/she will be notified of any changes that are available, and other users will see the changes made by the user. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time and offline collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 Gerry changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Enhancement: Support for|Enhancement: Support for |real-time, synchronous |real-time and offline |collaborative editing in|collaborative editing in |LibreOffice (desktop) |LibreOffice (desktop) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
