[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

--- Comment #6 from Thorsten Behrens (CIB)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5)
> @Thorston, ESC notes still show you have this under review. Any progress?
> 

Not really - beyond the no-brainer of reverting the original 2013er change.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|Draw|filters and storage
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
Version|unspecified |4.1 all versions
   See Also|https://bugs.documentfounda |https://bugs.documentfounda
   |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   |4597|5802
 CC||t...@libreoffice.org,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Exact dupe for Persian language of bug 115802, but the general case is
mishandling of RTL text runs in the PDF generator. 

The mis-sounding by screen readers is just a symptom of the structural
deficiencies of the PDF export where words or sentences of the text runs are
treated LTR rather than RTL.

It affects Linux and Orca users, in addition to Windows NVDA (or JAWS) users as
here.

@Thorston, ESC notes still show you have this under review. Any progress?

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 104597 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

zahra  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED
 Ever confirmed|1   |0

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

--- Comment #4 from zahra  ---
Created attachment 162366
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=162366=edit
one english pdf file which i downloaded today

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

--- Comment #3 from zahra  ---
Created attachment 162365
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=162365=edit
the docx format of persian pdf file which i attached in my description

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

zahra  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||4597

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

--- Comment #2 from zahra  ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #1)
> (In reply to zahra from comment #0)
> > since i use windows xp, the last version of libreoffice which i can test is
> > 5.4.7, so, not sure about newer versions.
> You may switch to Linux and use new LO. But if bug report is clear, someone
> here may test with new LO.
> 
> > i have a docx file.
> Why DOCX? I guess it may also be ODT. Important is that you attach it,
> without personal info.
> 
> > most times nvda says blank.
> > other times, read document in reverse order!
> Hard to confirm for us that don't speak Persian. I can generally say that we
> have some bugs with text direction for RTL (right-to-left).
> 
> > Actual Results:
> > i cant read pdf files, nvda reads them in the reverse order, even maybe
> > libreoffice converts them to the picture instead of written pdf document.
> It's not true, you should have verified that before reporting. 
> 
> > i did not test with english files and dont know the result!
> It's important that you do, to know if this is some RTL or general LO issue.

hello.
i downloaded one english pdf and tested it.
and i did not observe inverse reading of my screen reader.
however, pdf files and draw are not accessible for screen readers, if i am
correct.
at least, i did not find a solution that i can read any pdf file with
libreoffice with nvda screen reader!
i am blind and cant see the pictures.
but because nvda always says shape when i use one pdf file with libreoffice,
i thought that libreoffice converts text pdf files in to image to display them!
i dont know coding, i really cant use terminal, shell, command line etc.
and for this reason and other reasons that its difficult for me to explain them
in english here, i really cant use linux and windows is the only operating
system that i can use.
and i attach the docs file which i attached it in my description.
with the english file which i downloaded today to test.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134180] persian pdf files created by libreoffice, cant be read with nvda screen reader using libreoffice!

2020-06-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134180

Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #1 from Timur  ---
(In reply to zahra from comment #0)
> since i use windows xp, the last version of libreoffice which i can test is
> 5.4.7, so, not sure about newer versions.
You may switch to Linux and use new LO. But if bug report is clear, someone
here may test with new LO.

> i have a docx file.
Why DOCX? I guess it may also be ODT. Important is that you attach it, without
personal info.

> most times nvda says blank.
> other times, read document in reverse order!
Hard to confirm for us that don't speak Persian. I can generally say that we
have some bugs with text direction for RTL (right-to-left).

> Actual Results:
> i cant read pdf files, nvda reads them in the reverse order, even maybe
> libreoffice converts them to the picture instead of written pdf document.
It's not true, you should have verified that before reporting. 

> i did not test with english files and dont know the result!
It's important that you do, to know if this is some RTL or general LO issue.

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