[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||0826 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13 ||7357 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 --- Comment #15 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Radomir Terber from comment #12) > However I guess the discussion here is relevant. The best solution would be > to perform deep validation of format of all files against specifications and > to show message if any file does not follow specification - with option to > open document with potential data loosing. Also I see space here for > independent tool that would may correct such documents (out of he scope of > the LO itself). This is not a valid approach. There's no way to perform such a "deep validation" of format, because the format changes over time - current revision of ECMA-376 is 5th edition. We actually do perform the appropriate validation as we read the format; but apart from really invalid things like mismatching tags or duplicating attributes (that make invalid XML) which we actually must warn and reject or allow the risk of further processing, everything unexpected from the OOXML PoV we must silently ignore, not stop and warn. So that if anything is unexpected in the format, we accept that as possibly unknown extension, and properly *ignore*. Doing otherwise is wrong conceptually. And that's an obvious bug to not ignore that, but accept as a *different* element/placement/syntax (I look at you Word :-D). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 --- Comment #14 from Radomir Terber --- This is a template engine crated by one of our suppliers. Even if I looked onto generated files, it looked formally OK. I donť know OOXML (and have no time to study it), so I supposed that if Word opens the document correctly, it could be issue of LO. I had no idea that Word opens incorrect document without any message, warning or so -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 --- Comment #13 from Timur --- (In reply to Radomir Terber from comment #12) > I mentioned that this document is generated and of course we can fix it in > the generator. Are you saying it's some internal software of your company, not of the shelf? This looks like NotOurBug do far. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 --- Comment #12 from Radomir Terber --- Since I do not know OOXML specification, I posted this bug for curiosity that the behavoiur of both tools is different. I didn't know which kind of incompatibility is it. I only observed different behaviour of both - LO and Word. I mentioned that this document is generated and of course we can fix it in the generator. So from my perspective everything is OK when I know the cause :) However I guess the discussion here is relevant. The best solution would be to perform deep validation of format of all files against specifications and to show message if any file does not follow specification - with option to open document with potential data loosing. Also I see space here for independent tool that would may correct such documents (out of he scope of the LO itself). But I understand that the check are time consuming and a lot of work. So probably current "solution" (to ignore it) is acceptable. Especially in case when word itself can't create such kind of error. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 --- Comment #11 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #10) > 1) Why is Word able to handle this? Show Microsoft decided to allow this to > work? The had to implement this them-self for a reason (even if it's of spec) Lol. If you see that some program does something when it's fed invalid data, it doesn't necessarily mean it's intentional. In this case, I'm sure it's called a bug. To have a bug in your software, you don't have to make any extra effort. To the contrary. And then people start to generate your files without using its documentation, and simply test if some weird output they generate happens to render in your software as they expected. If your software is popular enough, and many people do that, each your bug sooner or later gets its happy user. I myself made lots of patches to be "bug-to-bug compatible" with MS Office. So I know that it makes sense sometimes, but - the *first* thing to do here is not to discuss if we need to support one of these bugs. The first thing should be to tell "this file is generated by software X. We contacted them, and filed the report. But they refused to fix it, telling ... . The software is used widely, and its impact is large, so that there are millions invalid documents generated all the time, without any hope for a fix." ... and only then it's the time to discuss if we need to break our software. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 Telesto changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com --- Comment #10 from Telesto --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7) > Every workaround like this makes our code more fragile, prone to bugs or > exploits; for the sake of pleasing some lazy developer of invalid > generators, we risk introducing bugs into normal file handling. I understand the argument made here.. however out curiosity. 1) Why is Word able to handle this? Show Microsoft decided to allow this to work? The had to implement this them-self for a reason (even if it's of spec) 2) And what about file compatibility. Not sure how many of those files are around. From technical point of view this might be correct answer. However from user point of view.. If the intended use case is to replace MS Office with LibreOffice, this might be a hurdle. And saying fix it by using MS Office, might be saying lets use MS Office in general. Should this not better be assessed based what the competitors do? -> Google Docs handles this as LibreOffice (didn't check the rest) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 134860] Illegal table in generated DOCX not shown in writer, but shown in Word correctly
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134860 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||filter:docx Priority|medium |low Summary|Table in the document is|Illegal table in generated |not shown in writer, but it |DOCX not shown in writer, |is shown in Word correctly |but shown in Word ||correctly -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
