[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

--- Comment #6 from NarayanAras  ---
Ok, you have only confirmed what I stated.

So here's the net proposal for actions:

1. Label the top node of the "headings" tree as "Outline".
   (In other words, this tree shows outlines, not headings.)

2. Create another tree that shows headings. 


That's it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-03-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

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--- Comment #5 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to NarayanAras from comment #3)
> The problem is that the node that actually shows the Outline levels is 
> called "headings". This is misleading.
Is your objection to the "label" (i.e., "Headings") or to the functionality
(i.e., what is shown under the label)?

> The "Outline" node will show the document's hierarchy that is based on the
> Outline levels assigned.
That is how Navigator currently functions. 

> Thus it will show the intended hierarchy of the document: parts > Sections >
> Chapters > Topics > paragraph heading (H1H5...) 
You may not be able to use the pre-defined "Heading N" paragraph styles, but
you could define your own paragraph styles (with appropriate outline levels) to
get this structure.

> On the other hand, the "Headings" node will show only H1, H2, H3
> Thus it will not be able to show the Title, Parts and Sections.
What is the purpose/value/need for this mode?

In short: Is the issue (a) that you have misunderstood what is shown under
"Headings" (b) that you think the label for "Headings" should be changed, or
(c) that the existing "Headings" section in Navigator should be supplemented
with a section that will only show paragraphs with a "Heading N" paragraph
style?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

--- Comment #4 from Jim Raykowski  ---
Sorry, I'm not quite following. An example document with a list of what is to
be included in the "Outline" and "Headings" nodes may help.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

--- Comment #3 from NarayanAras  ---
I am not sure about how you interpret the chapters in the hierarchy. If I
respond to you directly with your example, we may interpret it differently. To
void that, let me describe the problem afresh:

A novel usually does not have a deep hierarchy, such as Title > Parts >
Sections > Chapters > Topics > paragraph headings (H1H5) > body text.

But this structure would be normally seen in technical documentation.

Normally, we do NOT apply heading levels to the top portion of the hierarchy.

For example, the Parts, and sections are not assigned a Heading level. We start
heading levels for chapters, topics and paragraph headings.

Let us say we assigned the following:

chapters ---> Heading 1
topics -> Heading 2
paragraph headings -> Heading 3
Sub-paragraph headings -> Heading 4
(The paragraphs may have multiple levels, so they will occupy Heading 5,
Heading 6, etc.)

As a result, the TOC (and also the "headings" node in the Navigator panel) will
not show the Parts and Sections at all.

To avoid this problem, LibreOffice Writer assigns an Outline level, which is
then used in TOC and Navigator panel.

This is fine, but the problem is that the node that actually shows the Outline
levels is called "headings".
This is misleading.

The solution is simple: 
Let Navigatior panel show both nodes: Headings node and Outline node.


The "Outline" node will show the document's hierarchy that is based on the
Outline levels assigned.
Thus it will show the intended hierarchy of the document: parts > Sections >
Chapters > Topics > paragraph heading (H1H5...) 

On the other hand, the "Headings" node will show only H1, H2, H3
Thus it will not be able to show the Title, Parts and Sections.

The "Outline" node reflects the WYSIWYM philosophy (What you see is what you
MEAN).
It shows the VIRTUAL structure of the document.

The "Headings" node reflects the WYSIWYG philosophy (What you see is what you
GET).
It shows the ACTUAL structure of the document.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

--- Comment #2 from Jim Raykowski  ---
Hi NarayanAras,

Do you mean something like:

- Headings
   - Heading 1
  Chapter 1
  Chapter 2
  Chapter 3
   - Heading 2
  Chapter 1.1
  Chapter 1.2
  Chapter 2.1
  Chapter 3.1
   - Heading 3
  Chapter 1.1.1
  Chapter 1.1.2
  Chapter 1.2.1
  Chapter 2.1.1
  Chapter 3.1.1
  Chapter 3.1.2

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2021-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Wouldn't it make more sense (and being faster to do) to just change the label?
Don't see many users creating headings without outline levels. And if so it's
likely intentionally to make the heading not appear in the table of contents-
and likewise not in the Navigator.

Jim, what do you think?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2020-12-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 138942] In the Navigator, show separate nodes for Headings and Outline levels

2020-12-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138942

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103030
[Bug 103030] [META] Navigator sidebar deck and floating window
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