[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

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 Resolution|NOTABUG |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #10 from Telesto  ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 114633 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||4633

--- Comment #9 from Telesto  ---
Hmm, digged out one of my own bugs: bug 114633

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #8 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #6)
> > ...please give some kind of summary suggestion...
> 
> Would dig the bug tracker myself with pleasure but got flooded with tickets.

No clue how that could happen

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #6)
> ...please give some kind of summary suggestion...

Would dig the bug tracker myself with pleasure but got flooded with tickets. So
please check yourself on what _existing_ ticket the discussion about UI/UX
improvements for this dialog fits best.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

--- Comment #6 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #4)
> > This is not end-user friendly. I call it even bad User Experience (UX). So
> > UX department should 'care' about this bit more.
> 
> The ticket was about "doesn't work". We likely do have another requuest for
> a better UI, that's why my take is still NAB/WF (or duplicate).

No objection . but please give some kind of summary suggestion (or create a bug
yourself) which is UX proof. I created 3 additional bugs (see duplicate +
duplicates there).. Which all being closed. 

It feels like a kind of filling bureaucratic forms which requires a certain
format to be processed, but people given a blank paper (not a form) with always
end up with a stamp "denied" or "not admissible" because not matching criteria

And a certain point I'm out of idea's of 'solutions' and stuck with only a
problem description without clear alternative solution. Whereas problem
descriptions without solution direction is seen as to unspecific/undirected and
closed because that.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #4)
> This is not end-user friendly. I call it even bad User Experience (UX). So
> UX department should 'care' about this bit more.

The ticket was about "doesn't work". We likely do have another requuest for a
better UI, that's why my take is still NAB/WF (or duplicate).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|WONTFIX |---
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #4 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> It depends on the Alignment (first tab in the dialog). If you do not use
> Automatic but Left, for example, the column width is set as expected. See
> also https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/01/05090100.html
> 
> Admittedly, the UI makes it not easy to understand.

This bug the cause for me to created bug 139096 bug 139098 bug 139370.
Switching to left as such doesn't fix it. You need to check adapt width also.

This is not end-user friendly. I call it even bad User Experience (UX). So UX
department should 'care' about this bit more.

Tables are commonly used. What the user wants isn't really uncommon. To way to
archive that is uncommon, and complex. Which probably not necessary, IMHO

So it make sense to improve this. I did few suggestion attempts(see closes see
also). Happy to go another direction.. but I think something should be done
here to make this better (obviously without breaking this for other use-cases)

So I still like a second opinion (Stuart). And I would even like a third (Baron
or Justin). Currently it's 2 against 1, IMHO. [Yes, there are cases where
you're vote counts for 2.. but would like to make an exception here. I see this
as too important]. I shut my mouth with clear 2:3 vote..

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||tele...@surfxs.nl

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 139096 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
It depends on the Alignment (first tab in the dialog). If you do not use
Automatic but Left, for example, the column width is set as expected. See also
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/01/05090100.html

Admittedly, the UI makes it not easy to understand.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||9370

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2020-12-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2020-12-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||9096,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||9098

--- Comment #1 from Telesto  ---
Fully agree.. again not sure if this being whole idea.. and another option
being needed or this simply being wrong

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