[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2023-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #12 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #8)
> [side comment:]  "similar" seems wrong/misleading for the command label,
> because it implies a "similarity" search.  Perhaps that label should be: 
> "Apply to all other occurrences"
bug 153890

No further comment received. Changes implemented as described in comment 8.
Closing as FIXED, but if further adjustments/changes are needed, then you are
welcome to send them here.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2023-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

--- Comment #11 from Commit Notification 
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Seth Chaiklin committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/3af327e7465f97c6c9fe0c91253ea64fec6f4153

tdf#151063  "index mark" -> "index entry"

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2023-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2023-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

--- Comment #9 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Patch to change option name in Index dialog, add tooltip to option and revise
extended tip:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/147852

Patch to update help if option name is changed, plus change "index mark":

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/help/+/147907

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2023-02-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

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--- Comment #8 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Good catch Tuomas!

1. I think "Index Marks" should be changed to "Index Entries" in the Type tab
(because it uses the results of the "Insert Index Entry" dialog).

(even if Index Marks are involved, there is no reason/need for users to know
the technical terminology used in the implementation.)

2. Proposal for tooltip (to be added) and extended tip (to be revised) for
checkbox on Type tab.

Tooltip:  Choose this option to include any  index entries inserted in the
document for the selected index Type.

Extended tip: Choose this option to include any index entries inserted in the
document for the selected index Type. Use Insert > Table of Contents and Index
> Index Entry to insert index entries in the document.

Comment: have added "for the selected index Type", because this is also
relevant.

3. Could only find one place in online help where "index mark" is mentioned.

"To add an index mark to similar words in your document, select Apply to all
similar texts." [1]

Change to:  To add index entries for all other occurrences of the selected
entry text, select Apply to all similar texts.

[side comment:]  "similar" seems wrong/misleading for the command label,
because it implies a "similarity" search.  Perhaps that label should be: 
"Apply to all other occurrences"

4. "Index mark" is only mentioned in WG 7.3 to refer to this option label.

5. "Index mark" is not found in UI (including tooltips/extended tips).

6. There are three .unos that refer to Index Marks. (two for navigator forward,
backward to index marks, and one (.uno:IndexMarkToIndex) which suggests that it
is relevant to indexes, but have not figured out what it does exactly (in part
because of sporadic crashes when used). None of these .unos seem to be included
in any toolbar, menubar, contextmenu.

7. There are also two Insert Entry .unos, both of which appear in toolbars,
menubars, popup menus.  (side comment: see bug 153847)


In sum: preponderance of evidence leans strongly to using "Index Entries"



[1]
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/swriter/guide/indices_enter.html

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2023-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

Olivier Hallot  changed:

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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2022-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Tuomas Hietala from comment #5)

> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/
> swmessages/en/?checksum=60b93c9d2fb09c6f


The localized help tooltip: 

"Includes the index entries that you inserted by choosing Insert - Table of
Contents and Index - Index Entry in the index."

seems a little convoluted and a bit out of context in that the Create From
"index marks" action is for creating a TOC or Index. 

The Writer Guide (7.3 pg 335) has more complete description of the UI. 

The "index marks" not only mark the location in the document but often can
include formatted text (even multi-line) used as the actual index or TOC entry.

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2022-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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  Component|Writer  |Documentation
   Keywords|difficultyBeginner, |
   |easyHack, skillDesign,  |
   |topicDesign |
 CC|mentoring@documentfoundatio |olivier.hallot@libreoffice.
   |n.org   |org

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Let's see what the documentation team thinks.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2022-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

--- Comment #5 from Tuomas Hietala  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3)
> The term comes from "parenthetical markings"; they mark the location in text
> where the content is indexed or where a supplemental comment is relevant.
> 
> They are not the actual "index entry" (which could be anything depending on
> the reference style in use) and each represents the relative placement or
> "mark" being collected.
> 
> IHMO => NAB and => WF as it would lead to incorrect translation/l10n

In that case, is the related extended tip correct?
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/swmessages/en/?checksum=60b93c9d2fb09c6f

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151063] Rename "Index marks" to "Index entries" (if the latter is correct)

2022-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151063

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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URL||https://wiki.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/Documentation/DevG
   ||uide/Text_Documents#Indexes
   ||_and_Index_Marks

--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
here is your reference:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DevGuide/Text_Documents#Indexes_and_Index_Marks

Leave it alone!

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2022-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Ever confirmed|1   |0
 Status|NEW |UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The term comes from "parenthetical markings"; they mark the location in text
where the content is indexed or where a supplemental comment is relevant.

They are not the actual "index entry" (which could be anything depending on the
reference style in use) and each represents the relative placement or "mark"
being collected.

IHMO => NAB and => WF as it would lead to incorrect translation/l10n

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2022-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||122497
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign,
   ||topicDesign
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org,
   ||mentoring@documentfoundatio
   ||n.org

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Code pointer: sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/tocindexpage.ui


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122497
[Bug 122497] [META] Table of Contents and Indexes dialog bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 182563
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=182563=edit
Screenshot

The label was the same since the dawn of time. Seems to be quite common looking
into the code, at least at comments. I agree with changing it to "Index
entries" in particular since it is created per Insert > Table of Contents and
Index > Index Entry...

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2022-09-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Telesto  changed:

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