[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

--- Comment #6 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> > 1. Presentations don't have locales...
> Isn't the text direction a setting for the whole presentation. If not we
> just don't know whether you read LTR or RTL.

Text direction is one thing, and locale is another thing. Locale is not a
setting for any document - it's an app setting. Or maybe we're not talking
about the same thing?

Also...

> UX-wise I suggest to just draw the slides from right to left assuming we can
> read the intended direction somehow from the presentation. I suggest to
> change the subject to something like "Make slide sorter RTL-affine".

there will be no one true setting. Some presentations need to be displayed
right-to-left and others left-to-right. And the user might want to change their
mind about this. Or print RTL handouts for one audience and LTR handouts for
another audience.

> > I don't think we can avoid some kind of toggle widget.
> Clearly a no-go. We have to obey the ODF and consider x-plattform too.

What do you mean by "obey the ODF"? What are "x-platform"'s?

> > There is also the question of whether we want the have the document itself
> > persist a choice of direction. That's a question I don't have an answer to.
> Don't get this.

It is likely that you want a presentation's _author_ to tell you whether the
slide-sorter / handouts should be RTL or LTR. To do that, that choice needs to
be saved in the .odp file.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
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   ||rb.hensc...@t-online.de
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #4)
> 1. Presentations don't have locales...
Isn't the text direction a setting for the whole presentation. If not we just
don't know whether you read LTR or RTL.

> I don't think we can avoid some kind of toggle widget.
Clearly a no-go. We have to obey the ODF and consider x-plattform too.

> There is also the question of whether we want the have the document itself
> persist a choice of direction. That's a question I don't have an answer to.
Don't get this.


UX-wise I suggest to just draw the slides from right to left assuming we can
read the intended direction somehow from the presentation. I suggest to change
the subject to something like "Make slide sorter RTL-affine".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

--- Comment #4 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> Slides are a sequences of screens from a start to the end. I see no
> direction in that. But since Hossein agreed with you it's apparently desired.

but those screens sometimes get embedded on a plane, on in a medium where
direction has significance, and then you have to choose whether slide 2 is on
the left or the right of slide 1.

> Simply draw the images in the slide sorter from right to left in case the
> presentation locale is RTL?

1. Presentations don't have locales...
2. If you mean app locale / UI language - that wouldn't help

I don't think we can avoid some kind of toggle widget. As for the choice of
initial value when going to Slide Sorter view, that could perhaps be based on
the page style of the first Master slide, or the master for the current slide,
or the app UI language. The latter may offer the more consistent user
experience even if it may require more flipping on the user's part.


There is also the question of whether we want the have the document itself
persist a choice of direction. That's a question I don't have an answer to.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-04-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks|100373  |112598
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Slides are a sequences of screens from a start to the end. I see no direction
in that. But since Hossein agreed with you it's apparently desired.

Simply draw the images in the slide sorter from right to left in case the
presentation locale is RTL?


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100373
[Bug 100373] [META] Style issues in Draw/Impress
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112598
[Bug 112598] [META] Slide sorter bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-04-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
So, the question is, _how_ should we be able to indicate this? (and of course
to have it persist.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-04-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

Hossein  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Hossein  ---
Confirmed with the latest LO 7.6 dev master:

Version: 7.6.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 8c3e219a831719ebb40dd2af8a26b0a24ad7aba1
CPU threads: 12; OS: Linux 5.19; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: fa-IR (fa_IR); UI: fa-IR
Calc: CL threaded

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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   Severity|minor   |normal

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154494] Can't set presentation direction

2023-03-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154494

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||129661, 100373
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||4492


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100373
[Bug 100373] [META] Style issues in Draw/Impress
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129661
[Bug 129661] [META] Right-To-Left (RTL) user interface issues
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