[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic briefly in the ESC meeting and at least for images it's
feasible to detect what is in the clipboard- and consequently apply a caption.
We need to consider the situation when the clipboard contains image and text,
which could be a caption.

Until the enhancement is done I'd add a note to the help that autocaption
explicitly requires Insert.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

--- Comment #9 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Daveo from comment #4)
> looks very much like a duplicate of bug 51850.
The difference is that bug 51850 was directed at external sources, in
particular images copied from webpages, which is why I opened this ticket for
"internal" sources (images in the same document or images copied from one
document to another). Of course, if the same underlying code is involved, then
mark this one as DUP and revise the bug summary for bug 51850 to highlight the
general problem.

@Heiko - at present, the online help of AutoCaption gives no indication about
"limitations" or "special conditions".  Usually online help aims to document
"expected behavior" (without mentioning any bugs).  As noted in the OP, maybe
users should only expect AutoCaption to work with "Insert - Image" (which is
what the help page says -- but it could probably be emphasized more
explicitly).

More generally, if this limitation ("must use Insert - Image) is going to be
the intention. Then this would also give a WF to bug 51850, because external
sources must be saved first, and then inserted.  (I am not advocating for this
solution -- just seeking some improvement in the documentation of the current
situation).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

--- Comment #8 from Daveo  ---
OK I now see that image and table captions have been lumped together in the
insertion code. Looks like a dead end for users who need an better process for
captioning pasted images.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Tools > Options > Writer > AutoCaption is available for many different types of
content.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

--- Comment #6 from Daveo  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> (In reply to Daveo from comment #4)
> > Why should it matter whether the image in the document is a copy of an 
> > image...
> 
> The question is can we apply it consistently, and at least for tables I
> doubt that.

Unclear how tables are involved in captioning images. Regardless of images
being inserted or pasted into cells of a table they can be captioned,
autocaption does not work in either case.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Daveo from comment #4)
> Why should it matter whether the image in the document is a copy of an 
> image...

The question is can we apply it consistently, and at least for tables I doubt
that.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Daveo  ---
This looks very much like a duplicate of the 11 year old NEW UNRESOLVED Bug
51850.
Why should it matter whether the image in the document is a copy of an image
from a file in any directory (incl. The Gallery) or a copy from the clipboard?
The image is in the document, so why does the code illogically try to
differentiate between the insertion mechanisms?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
To insert or pasting from the clipboard or dragging from the Gallery are
different actions. I understand why the auto caption doesn't kick in but I'm
not sure if this is what the average user expects. Assuming it is possible to
detect whether the clipboard content is a table, what I doubt and just to make
it more complicated, I could imagine to break morfe workflows if the auto
caption would be added than we do good with solving an inconsistency.

I would just add a note to the help. André, what do you think?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154686
[Bug 154686] "Apply border and shadow" option should be removed from
AutoCaption dialog
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

--- Comment #2 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to m.a.riosv from comment #1)
> Because you are copying the image not the Frame with the image
The question though is whether AutoCaption should be applied to a copied image.

> b) Also, Menu/Insert/Image adds the frame with their caption.
Correct. Also my experience and consistent with current help page.

> If you copy the frame, the caption is applied, 
Do not repro.  
1. Turn off AutoCaption for Frames.
2. Insert a frame.
3. Turn on AutoCaption for Frames.
4. Copy and paste frame.

Actual:  No caption applied to pasted frame.

> if you copy only the image, not, 
Which is the claim in the OP.

> Pasting from spreadsheets doesn't the caption.
Bug 61222

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

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--- Comment #1 from m.a.riosv  ---
Because you are copying the image not the Frame with the image

After your second step,
a) Right-click to insert caption, now you have the image and the frame
containing it.
b) Also, Menu/Insert/Image adds the frame with their caption.

If you copy the frame, the caption is applied, if you copy only the image, not,
if I'm not wrong because the caption is a property of the frames not the
images.

Pasting from spreadsheets doesn't the caption.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154682] AutoCaption does not apply to an Image cut and pasted within a document or pasted to another document

2023-04-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154682

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||108957
Summary|AutoCaption does not apply  |AutoCaption does not apply
   |to an Image cut from one|to an Image cut and pasted
   |document and pasted in  |within a document or pasted
   |another document|to another document
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51
   ||850,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61
   ||222
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108957
[Bug 108957] [META] AutoCaption bugs and enhancements
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